Anonymous
04/09/2025 18:59
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Which religion is the be end all?
Which religion is the one that is correct?
Is it The Church of Satan, founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, is a religious organization that views "Satan" as a symbol of humanistic values like self-assertion and rebellion, rather than a literal deity, and encourages the acceptance of human nature and ego development.
or is it the Satanic Temple?
Each religion also has a very conservative bent like Opus Dei, Chabad, Hassidic, Evangelical anyone think those are what God intended?
Maybe a higher being created the Universe given what is going on in the US in the name of"god" seriously doubt there is a higher being.
Why do you think there has to be one?
Anonymous
04/09/2025 18:18
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:They can not. This is why we have trump
Trump is an atheist, which a lot of religious people know and don't care about - as long as he does what they think they want.
Watch out, believers, you're getting played for a fool by an atheist - Donald Trump.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 18:00
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
They can not. This is why we have trump
Anonymous
04/09/2025 17:58
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Which religion is the be end all?
Which religion is the one that is correct?
Is it The Church of Satan, founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, is a religious organization that views "Satan" as a symbol of humanistic values like self-assertion and rebellion, rather than a literal deity, and encourages the acceptance of human nature and ego development.
or is it the Satanic Temple?
Each religion also has a very conservative bent like Opus Dei, Chabad, Hassidic, Evangelical anyone think those are what God intended?
Maybe a higher being created the Universe given what is going on in the US in the name of"god" seriously doubt there is a higher being.
Which religion is the one that is correct?
Is it The Church of Satan, founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, is a religious organization that views "Satan" as a symbol of humanistic values like self-assertion and rebellion, rather than a literal deity, and encourages the acceptance of human nature and ego development.
or is it the Satanic Temple?
Each religion also has a very conservative bent like Opus Dei, Chabad, Hassidic, Evangelical anyone think those are what God intended?
Maybe a higher being created the Universe given what is going on in the US in the name of"god" seriously doubt there is a higher being.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 17:49
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Human understanding of both science and religion change and evolve every day, neither is absolute, proven and precise.
No, but science is based on reality and changes with new information. In contrast, religion is based on ancient wisdom and does not change with new information.
That's not actually true. Most religions have intellectual principle of constantly exploring faith and what is known and knowable (i.e., the Catholic intellectual tradition, Jewish tradition of seeking wisdom, etc.).
Anonymous
04/09/2025 17:34
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Human understanding of both science and religion change and evolve every day, neither is absolute, proven and precise.
Wrong. Some things in science have been proven over and over and over. Religion on the other hand has zero evidence to support it.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 17:17
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Buddhism is another one. Same for Taoism.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Unitarian Universalists, for instance.
Here we are discussing religions that have supernatural beliefs.
The question asked how can educated people be religious. Then the OP defined religious people as believing in the supernatural. That is an incorrect definition. Not all religious people believe in a deity or supernatural presence. UU is one of the smaller ones.
OP here. UU's do not have to believe in the supernatural, but they can, if they like. I was once attended a UU service where the pastor acknowledged that she believed in God.
I also attended a UU meeting where a member was terribly hurt and became very defensive when she learned that others there did not believe in God.
Not too many Buddhists or Taoists in the US
Anonymous
04/09/2025 17:04
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Buddhism is another one. Same for Taoism.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Unitarian Universalists, for instance.
Here we are discussing religions that have supernatural beliefs.
The question asked how can educated people be religious. Then the OP defined religious people as believing in the supernatural. That is an incorrect definition. Not all religious people believe in a deity or supernatural presence. UU is one of the smaller ones.
OP here. UU's do not have to believe in the supernatural, but they can, if they like. I was once attended a UU service where the pastor acknowledged that she believed in God.
I also attended a UU meeting where a member was terribly hurt and became very defensive when she learned that others there did not believe in God.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:55
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Unitarian Universalists, for instance.
Here we are discussing religions that have supernatural beliefs.
The question asked how can educated people be religious. Then the OP defined religious people as believing in the supernatural. That is an incorrect definition. Not all religious people believe in a deity or supernatural presence. UU is one of the smaller ones.
OP here. UU's do not have to believe in the supernatural, but they can, if they like. I was once attended a UU service where the pastor acknowledged that she believed in God.
I also attended a UU meeting where a member was terribly hurt and became very defensive when she learned that others there did not believe in God.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:48
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Human understanding of both science and religion change and evolve every day, neither is absolute, proven and precise.
No, but science is based on reality and changes with new information. In contrast, religion is based on ancient wisdom and does not change with new information.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:48
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Unitarian Universalists, for instance.
Here we are discussing religions that have supernatural beliefs.
The question asked how can educated people be religious. Then the OP defined religious people as believing in the supernatural. That is an incorrect definition. Not all religious people believe in a deity or supernatural presence. UU is one of the smaller ones.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:27
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Human understanding of both science and religion change and evolve every day, neither is absolute, proven and precise.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:25
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Anonymous wrote:Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?
Unitarian Universalists, for instance.
Here we are discussing religions that have supernatural beliefs.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:20
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
The educated people would have to consciously chose to be religious. Owning yourself and your own destiny in a deterministic universe is unhumanly hard and scary. It is much easier for somebody else to decide for you what is good and bad.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 16:08
Subject: How can sensible, educated people be religious?
Not all religions require a belief in a deity.Anonymous wrote:How can people who understand basic science also believe that there is a god in heaven protecting them and that they will live there forever after they die here on earth?