Anonymous wrote:The biggest lie in this thread was the transwoman claiming she wouldn’t want a MAGA man to love her like a woman . Yeah, okay.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

I'm what would be characterized as a liberal and completely agree with this.

Being forced to have our pronouns in our signatures, forced to keep kids home from school during Covid way beyond reasonable timeframes, New York Times calling the lab leak theory racist, forced to act like men in women's sports is reasonable- there is a lot more here. We lost because of all of this and the refusal to see our own type of forced groupthink. I'm so angry at all of the crazy liberals who ruined things.

Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

DP. I don't get it.

Can you show for me, EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, where Kamala Harris or other major Democratic candidates running in 2024 had "put men in womens sports" as part of their campaign platforms or anywhere in their campaign speeches?

Show me something specific and maybe I'll start to get it. If not, maybe you can start to admit you're the one who's wrong and to acknowledge that the GOP ran a massive smear campaign claiming they did. Bob Casey for example lost because of that smear campaign and NEVER ONCE said a single thing about women in mens sports.

So either provide specific evidence if you want me to "get it" or back off and change course.

The fact that Biden tried to change Title IX to redefine sex as gender identity proof enough.
But, you can also add to that - 203 Democrats voted to allow biological men in women's sports instead of protecting women and girls.

Biden dropped out, so I don't give a crap about him.
Also, you omit the reason why the Democrats voted the way they did - because less than 10 people does not warrant legislation, that's why. And the bill fizzled out in the Senate anyhow.

So try again. You haven't made a compelling case.

Biden dropped out, yes. And then Harris enthusiastically endorsed everything he had done. So, while you may not give a crap about Biden, it is very clear yours was a minority opinion.

Also, just as an aside, Democrats need to leave the “only ten” talking point. It’s not persuasive and makes people think you are lying.

You still don't have a specific. And as for the "only ten" you think they are lying because you yourself have been lied to to make you believe it's a vast epidemic when it's not.

I’m not sure why “I endorse everything Biden did and wouldn’t change a thing” a few weeks after he drastically rewrote Title IX isn’t specific enough for you, but perhaps you lack the ability to make logical leaps.

Also, here is why “only 10” doesn’t work: People don’t distinguish between NCAA and their local track meets on this issue, so already “only 10” sounds like a lie. And the number of podium spots lost is growing; every widely circulated video of a high school natal boy blowing out the competition makes that number seem even more of a lie. But also, Democrats have traditionally not put a number on fairness. In other words, Democrats have, in the past, put themselves forward as being the party that fights to correct unfairness even if only a few people are hurt by that unfairness. But here, with the “only 10” messaging, Democrats are essentially admitting the situation is very unfair but there aren’t enough people harmed yet for them to care. That is absolutely terrible messaging.

The argument that it only affects a few people is so confusing to me. If a man set a NCAA women’s record it takes that away for ALL girls! Not just those in the meet that missed the podium, my 10 year old female swimmer now has a record that is out of reach for her and every girl!!!

The reason Dems do this is that most parents of girl athletes are Republicans. Dems WANT suburban flyover state parents and daughters to suffer. The are the enemy. The might be Trumpy. So Dems say, “Meet Big Bertha! Good luck in your game!”

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

DP. I don't get it.

Can you show for me, EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, where Kamala Harris or other major Democratic candidates running in 2024 had "put men in womens sports" as part of their campaign platforms or anywhere in their campaign speeches?

Show me something specific and maybe I'll start to get it. If not, maybe you can start to admit you're the one who's wrong and to acknowledge that the GOP ran a massive smear campaign claiming they did. Bob Casey for example lost because of that smear campaign and NEVER ONCE said a single thing about women in mens sports.

So either provide specific evidence if you want me to "get it" or back off and change course.

The fact that Biden tried to change Title IX to redefine sex as gender identity proof enough.
But, you can also add to that - 203 Democrats voted to allow biological men in women's sports instead of protecting women and girls.

Biden dropped out, so I don't give a crap about him.
Also, you omit the reason why the Democrats voted the way they did - because less than 10 people does not warrant legislation, that's why. And the bill fizzled out in the Senate anyhow.

So try again. You haven't made a compelling case.

Biden dropped out, yes. And then Harris enthusiastically endorsed everything he had done. So, while you may not give a crap about Biden, it is very clear yours was a minority opinion.

Also, just as an aside, Democrats need to leave the “only ten” talking point. It’s not persuasive and makes people think you are lying.

You still don't have a specific. And as for the "only ten" you think they are lying because you yourself have been lied to to make you believe it's a vast epidemic when it's not.

I’m not sure why “I endorse everything Biden did and wouldn’t change a thing” a few weeks after he drastically rewrote Title IX isn’t specific enough for you, but perhaps you lack the ability to make logical leaps.

Also, here is why “only 10” doesn’t work: People don’t distinguish between NCAA and their local track meets on this issue, so already “only 10” sounds like a lie. And the number of podium spots lost is growing; every widely circulated video of a high school natal boy blowing out the competition makes that number seem even more of a lie. But also, Democrats have traditionally not put a number on fairness. In other words, Democrats have, in the past, put themselves forward as being the party that fights to correct unfairness even if only a few people are hurt by that unfairness. But here, with the “only 10” messaging, Democrats are essentially admitting the situation is very unfair but there aren’t enough people harmed yet for them to care. That is absolutely terrible messaging.

The argument that it only affects a few people is so confusing to me. If a man set a NCAA women’s record it takes that away for ALL girls! Not just those in the meet that missed the podium, my 10 year old female swimmer now has a record that is out of reach for her and every girl!!!

The reason Dems do this is that most parents of girl athletes are Republicans. Dems WANT suburban flyover state parents and daughters to suffer. The are the enemy. The might be Trumpy. So Dems say, “Meet Big Bertha! Good luck in your game!”

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

DP. I don't get it.

Can you show for me, EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, where Kamala Harris or other major Democratic candidates running in 2024 had "put men in womens sports" as part of their campaign platforms or anywhere in their campaign speeches?

Show me something specific and maybe I'll start to get it. If not, maybe you can start to admit you're the one who's wrong and to acknowledge that the GOP ran a massive smear campaign claiming they did. Bob Casey for example lost because of that smear campaign and NEVER ONCE said a single thing about women in mens sports.

So either provide specific evidence if you want me to "get it" or back off and change course.

The fact that Biden tried to change Title IX to redefine sex as gender identity proof enough.
But, you can also add to that - 203 Democrats voted to allow biological men in women's sports instead of protecting women and girls.

Biden dropped out, so I don't give a crap about him.
Also, you omit the reason why the Democrats voted the way they did - because less than 10 people does not warrant legislation, that's why. And the bill fizzled out in the Senate anyhow.

So try again. You haven't made a compelling case.

Biden dropped out, yes. And then Harris enthusiastically endorsed everything he had done. So, while you may not give a crap about Biden, it is very clear yours was a minority opinion.

Also, just as an aside, Democrats need to leave the “only ten” talking point. It’s not persuasive and makes people think you are lying.

You still don't have a specific. And as for the "only ten" you think they are lying because you yourself have been lied to to make you believe it's a vast epidemic when it's not.

I’m not sure why “I endorse everything Biden did and wouldn’t change a thing” a few weeks after he drastically rewrote Title IX isn’t specific enough for you, but perhaps you lack the ability to make logical leaps.

Also, here is why “only 10” doesn’t work: People don’t distinguish between NCAA and their local track meets on this issue, so already “only 10” sounds like a lie. And the number of podium spots lost is growing; every widely circulated video of a high school natal boy blowing out the competition makes that number seem even more of a lie. But also, Democrats have traditionally not put a number on fairness. In other words, Democrats have, in the past, put themselves forward as being the party that fights to correct unfairness even if only a few people are hurt by that unfairness. But here, with the “only 10” messaging, Democrats are essentially admitting the situation is very unfair but there aren’t enough people harmed yet for them to care. That is absolutely terrible messaging.

The argument that it only affects a few people is so confusing to me. If a man set a NCAA women’s record it takes that away for ALL girls! Not just those in the meet that missed the podium, my 10 year old female swimmer now has a record that is out of reach for her and every girl!!!

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

I'm what would be characterized as a liberal and completely agree with this.

Being forced to have our pronouns in our signatures, forced to keep kids home from school during Covid way beyond reasonable timeframes, New York Times calling the lab leak theory racist, forced to act like men in women's sports is reasonable- there is a lot more here. We lost because of all of this and the refusal to see our own type of forced groupthink. I'm so angry at all of the crazy liberals who ruined things.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys this is officially insane
This guy is the biggest bully and a*******
Who actually wanted this?

“While the State of Maine has apologized for their Governor’s strong, but totally incorrect, statement about men playing in women’s sports while at the White House House Governor’s Conference, we have not heard from the Governor herself, and she is the one that matters in such cases,” Trump wrote Saturday. It’s unclear what apology from Maine the president could be referring to.
Trump also demanded a commitment from Mills to refrain from challenging the federal government’s stance.

“Therefore, we need a full throated apology from the Governor herself, and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful challenge to the Federal Government again, before this case can be settled. I’m sure she will be able to do that quite easily. Thank you for your attention to this matter and, make America Great Again,” Trump added.

I hope the governor of Maine gives a hearty laugh on camera and then says. "Next question".

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it.

Lots of people will be absolutely delighted with this. And not just MAGA. Anyone across the county who feels Democrats are the party of elitists that demand total belief compliance from everyone. The people who think the Democrats stopped listening to voters. The people who resent Democrats telling them that they have to accept their entire orthodoxy or they are bad people.

You don’t understand it because you are a DCUM Democrat, almost certainly UMC or wealthy, almost certainly a woman, probably white. You are one of the people that everyone else resents because you’ve attempted to shove a belief system you think makes you the best person, better than others, down everyone else’s throats.

Just FWIW, I do not support Trump’s behavior here at all. But the hermetically sealed echo chamber that convinces themselves that everyone agrees with you is wrong here.

Trump is a generationally clever politician. He’s picked an issue where wealthy white Democrat elites are on the opposite side of the rest of nearly the whole country, and he’s using it as a way of demonstrating that the Democratic Party doesn’t listen to its voters, is out of touch, etc. So when he is demanding an apology, people see him as demanding an apology from a bunch of wealthy elitists who believe they are better than everyone else. They don’t see it as bullying. They see it as him fighting for the underdog against power structures and people that hate them.

This is impossible for most DCUM Democrats to understand, however, because it requires them to admit that they are wrong, and not superior people. It requires them understanding that their adherence to political orthodoxy and fundamentalism has alienated large swaths of the voting population. It requires progressives to admit that they are as religious as the fundamentalist Christians, just on different issues. And that’s never going to happen, so you will remain puzzled that most of the rest of the country doesn’t see this quote the way you do.

DP. I don't get it.

Can you show for me, EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, where Kamala Harris or other major Democratic candidates running in 2024 had "put men in womens sports" as part of their campaign platforms or anywhere in their campaign speeches?

Show me something specific and maybe I'll start to get it. If not, maybe you can start to admit you're the one who's wrong and to acknowledge that the GOP ran a massive smear campaign claiming they did. Bob Casey for example lost because of that smear campaign and NEVER ONCE said a single thing about women in mens sports.

So either provide specific evidence if you want me to "get it" or back off and change course.

They didn't have to put it into a campaign speech because Biden actually tried to implement it as a rule applied to Title IX:

"The proposed rule — which would have required states to allow biological males who identify as female to compete in girls’ and women’s sports — is separate from an extended civil rights protections rule for LGBTQ students under Title IX, which is still being challenged."

Biden backed off once there was an uproar.

So you’re saying Biden actually responded to the will of the voters, instead of charging on and saying pain is necessary? Is that a bad thing or a good thing in your view?

No he responded to a lawsuit in which he surely would have lost. Never should have introduced it in the first place.