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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I think the not wanting to be a single mom thing was the biggest factor. I'm sorry but at her wealth level, the options for surrogacy and adoption are basically limitless. So even if you want to conceive and it never works out (which you are right, sometimes it doesn't, people need to understand that you can't force that if there are factors working against it), a person that wealthy can be a mom if she wants. But if she wanted to have a stable relationship and a partner in parenting, and if the process of trying with both Brad and Justin perhaps revealed that maybe they weren't going to go the distance (or maybe if Brad or Justin expressed disinterest in adoption or surrogacy and were really only on board if Jen got pregnant) then I get making the decision not to proceed.

But there is a point, financially, where there is simply not an obstacle to parenthood even if IVF does not work. Surrogates, sperm donors, egg donors, international adoption -- if you throw enough money at these options, you will have a kid. The vast majority of us don't have those resources, but Jennifer Aniston does. She perhaps didn't want to go about it that way, and that's okay.

Well, yeah, there are a ton of options, but if you want to be a parent in a stable relationship, which Jen did, then none of those options matter if your relationships don’t work out. Jen wanted children with her partner and tried with both.

Maybe if she wasn’t concerned about being in a stable relationship, she would have become a mother. But maybe not.

Like I said, I was unconcerned about that and had the resources. I did use a sperm donor, I did several rounds of IVF, I hired a surrogate, and used an egg donor. It was a process lasting many years and cost more than a half million dollars. The only thing I did not try was adoption, because the laws around international adoption have changed to make it more difficult (which is good, because it’s for the safety of the children), and it’s more difficult still when you’re single and the older you get. Though I did have adoption agents and lawyers working for me too. Single celebrities can probably avoid some of the obstacles because they’re famous, but at some point, if you actually care about your potential children, you will realize that you are too old, no matter how much money you could leave to them.

If you talk to therapists who specialize in this, they will tell you that people do not give up because of the money, even if they have all the money in the world. They give up because they are exhausted.

I’m sorry about what you went through. I do think Jennifer Aniston has more options, if you look at celebrity adoptions in the last 10 to 15 years, which was probably her sweet spot foradopting, there were plenty of celebs who adopted. Sandra Bullock was even able to adopt healthy American children, which I’ve heard is nearly impossible. I do think celebrities and the ultra-rich have options that run of the mill wealthy people don’t have.

But further, I think we’d be doing Jenn a disservice to act like she just stupidly stumbled through a marriage with Justin Theroux, and didn’t get a baby out of it. Let’s look at the history, she was early 40s, and she chose him. People like to say that he used her for fame, but she got out a lot out of that relationship too. I think she was tired of the poor, single Jen narrative, he was younger, he was cute, he didn’t overshadow her, but had his own acting career. Didn’t have stepchildren or ex-wives, and that mess.

From the start, they lived pretty separate lives. He is a New Yorker and she’s in LA girl. If they did actually marry, it was the cleanest divorce in history. I guess they had an ironclad prenup, cause there was no dog custody disputes, no money or property disputes. It sounds like they lived pretty separately but enjoyed their time together. I’m not saying that it was a total sham relationship, but I do think they both got a lot out of it. I think if you really want to have a kid, you don’t marry someone who is moving out of his girlfriend of 14 years’ apartment with no kids. You do what Sandra did and adopt or do surrogacy and then focus on a relationship.

After that relationship, Jen has seemed to enjoy being single or at least not get into any more profile relationships. I think it was important for her career in her 40s to be in a relationship and I don’t think it’s nearly as important now. I think that relationship was pretty strategic and I don’t think kids were ever part of the plan.

I’m not saying that she lied, absolutely think she went through infertility treatments with Brad, but I don’t think she did that with Justin.

Anonymous wrote:I thought Justin was mr "oh I want privacy and am too cool for media attention." Yet he's been pimping out this relationship all over the place. It's tacky, especially given his age.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I don’t think that she tried with Justin. I think that was just a play in the media to keep people talking and speculating. I don’t think either of them want to have kids and it’s just really weird that they’ve both reached their mid 50s and we’re just like, so sad that they haven’t had kids! Is it that hard to admit that maybe some people like doing other things in life besides having kids? I absolutely love being a mom, but it’s not beyond the grasp of possibility to me that other people would not choose this.

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Especially since Jennifer loves Tulum lol, but that's natural. It's bittersweet. That Vouge spread was tacky though

No, Jen famously goes to Cabo every year, not talum.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I think the not wanting to be a single mom thing was the biggest factor. I'm sorry but at her wealth level, the options for surrogacy and adoption are basically limitless. So even if you want to conceive and it never works out (which you are right, sometimes it doesn't, people need to understand that you can't force that if there are factors working against it), a person that wealthy can be a mom if she wants. But if she wanted to have a stable relationship and a partner in parenting, and if the process of trying with both Brad and Justin perhaps revealed that maybe they weren't going to go the distance (or maybe if Brad or Justin expressed disinterest in adoption or surrogacy and were really only on board if Jen got pregnant) then I get making the decision not to proceed.

But there is a point, financially, where there is simply not an obstacle to parenthood even if IVF does not work. Surrogates, sperm donors, egg donors, international adoption -- if you throw enough money at these options, you will have a kid. The vast majority of us don't have those resources, but Jennifer Aniston does. She perhaps didn't want to go about it that way, and that's okay.

Well, yeah, there are a ton of options, but if you want to be a parent in a stable relationship, which Jen did, then none of those options matter if your relationships don’t work out. Jen wanted children with her partner and tried with both.

Maybe if she wasn’t concerned about being in a stable relationship, she would have become a mother. But maybe not.

Like I said, I was unconcerned about that and had the resources. I did use a sperm donor, I did several rounds of IVF, I hired a surrogate, and used an egg donor. It was a process lasting many years and cost more than a half million dollars. The only thing I did not try was adoption, because the laws around international adoption have changed to make it more difficult (which is good, because it’s for the safety of the children), and it’s more difficult still when you’re single and the older you get. Though I did have adoption agents and lawyers working for me too. Single celebrities can probably avoid some of the obstacles because they’re famous, but at some point, if you actually care about your potential children, you will realize that you are too old, no matter how much money you could leave to them.

If you talk to therapists who specialize in this, they will tell you that people do not give up because of the money, even if they have all the money in the world. They give up because they are exhausted.

Anonymous wrote:I thought Justin was mr "oh I want privacy and am too cool for media attention." Yet he's been pimping out this relationship all over the place. It's tacky, especially given his age.

Anonymous wrote:I thought Justin was mr "oh I want privacy and am too cool for media attention." Yet he's been pimping out this relationship all over the place. It's tacky, especially given his age.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I think the not wanting to be a single mom thing was the biggest factor. I'm sorry but at her wealth level, the options for surrogacy and adoption are basically limitless. So even if you want to conceive and it never works out (which you are right, sometimes it doesn't, people need to understand that you can't force that if there are factors working against it), a person that wealthy can be a mom if she wants. But if she wanted to have a stable relationship and a partner in parenting, and if the process of trying with both Brad and Justin perhaps revealed that maybe they weren't going to go the distance (or maybe if Brad or Justin expressed disinterest in adoption or surrogacy and were really only on board if Jen got pregnant) then I get making the decision not to proceed.

But there is a point, financially, where there is simply not an obstacle to parenthood even if IVF does not work. Surrogates, sperm donors, egg donors, international adoption -- if you throw enough money at these options, you will have a kid. The vast majority of us don't have those resources, but Jennifer Aniston does. She perhaps didn't want to go about it that way, and that's okay.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I don’t think that she tried with Justin. I think that was just a play in the media to keep people talking and speculating. I don’t think either of them want to have kids and it’s just really weird that they’ve both reached their mid 50s and we’re just like, so sad that they haven’t had kids! Is it that hard to admit that maybe some people like doing other things in life besides having kids? I absolutely love being a mom, but it’s not beyond the grasp of possibility to me that other people would not choose this.

She specifically said she went though a lot, tried every tea and treatment but it didn't work out. And that all the speculation and scrutiny was especially hard in this context. I don't think she was lying. And Justin jumped right in to support her statement. I think it's true she didn't want to be a single mom, like her mom, and it just didn't happen in the context of the stable family unit she wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

I don’t think that she tried with Justin. I think that was just a play in the media to keep people talking and speculating. I don’t think either of them want to have kids and it’s just really weird that they’ve both reached their mid 50s and we’re just like, so sad that they haven’t had kids! Is it that hard to admit that maybe some people like doing other things in life besides having kids? I absolutely love being a mom, but it’s not beyond the grasp of possibility to me that other people would not choose this.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

I’m wealthy enough to have had all the options that Jen had, and I desperately wanted kids and didn’t have them. Sometimes it really doesn’t work out. She’s said that she didn’t want to be a single mother. (FTR, I was fine with being a single mother and it STILL didn’t happen). She tried with Brad and with Justin. It didn’t happen for her.

I’m not saying that Jen is a tragic figure. She seems to be at peace and happy with her life. But I dislike the idea that anyone can be a parent if they’re rich or patient enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

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Anonymous wrote:Not everybody wants kids guys. I don’t think Jen Aniston wasted her prime because I think of Jen Aniston want kids she would’ve had them. Even with infertility, she could’ve done donor eggs and surrogates, adoption, tons of options for the wealthy.

I am enjoying Justin‘s very minor role in running point, but I don’t take him all that seriously and I’m betting they’re not going to have kids and will in a few years.

She has publicly stated multiple times that she wanted children. Yes, there are tons of options for the wealthy, but it didn’t work out for her.

I feel like there’s some societal pressure, she is America’s sweetheart, to say she wanted kids. come on, if Jen Aniston wanted kids, she would have them. to be like oh it just didn’t work out is silly.

It sounds like she went through IVF maybe with Brad and that didn’t work out. I’ll give you that. But beyond that she has tons of options and we all know it.

Beyond societal pressure, there was a very strong media narrative around the time of her divorce from Brad (maybe created by Brad/Angie PR?) That the reason poor Brad had to leave for Angelina was that Aniston didn't want kids. I think she felt the need to counter that. I think she has also said things about her own upbringing like she didn't want to have a kid without a strong marriage and partnership in raising them, which she has definitely struggled to find. Maybe because I relate to this in being kind of ambivalent about kids (I did have them but was on the fence til 40...) but I think she was open to it if she could have the whole family picture with the right guy, but she wasn't going to do things like surrogates or becoming a single mom by choice. Just never wanted them THAT badly in a way a lot of women do.