Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:44     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:At least trump will be gone by the time they graduate college.

Uh, he's talking about violating the Constitution and staying in office for a third term.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:44     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following:

--Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs
-- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment
--End of anything DEI
--End of merit aid
--End of any non-essential spending on student services

Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere.


My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?


My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants.

The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry.


spend some time away from here and on r/academia or r/professors or r/askacademia or r/highereducation.
so many people inside universities commenting right now.


Lots of people commenting lots of things. . . .

But the fact is, most schools are tuition dependent; they use 'merit' awards as a differential pricing mechanism. Rescinding merit would result in fewer (partial) tuition-paying students and a loss of income. Most schools outside of the T20 won't be able to afford that. They need those families who are chasing merit.

Income-based financial aid, much of which goes to students from families with very limited ability to pay, will suffer.


Why wouldn't they just accept more 100% full pay families this year though?


They likely will look for them! However, as you can imagine, there are a finite number of American families who are willing and able to pay full freight ($90K per year), especially for schools that lack the prestige and networks of the T20 or T30.

At some schools, admissions standards may slip to allow for more full-pay students, true. But I don't think there are enough non-academically-inclined children of the uber-wealthy to make the math work.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:39     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following:

--Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs
-- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment
--End of anything DEI
--End of merit aid
--End of any non-essential spending on student services

Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere.


My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?


My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants.

The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry.


spend some time away from here and on r/academia or r/professors or r/askacademia or r/highereducation.
so many people inside universities commenting right now.


Lots of people commenting lots of things. . . .

But the fact is, most schools are tuition dependent; they use 'merit' awards as a differential pricing mechanism. Rescinding merit would result in fewer (partial) tuition-paying students and a loss of income. Most schools outside of the T20 won't be able to afford that. They need those families who are chasing merit.

Income-based financial aid, much of which goes to students from families with very limited ability to pay, will suffer.


Why wouldn't they just accept more 100% full pay families this year though?
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:38     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following:

--Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs
-- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment
--End of anything DEI
--End of merit aid
--End of any non-essential spending on student services

Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere.


My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?


My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants.

The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry.


spend some time away from here and on r/academia or r/professors or r/askacademia or r/highereducation.
so many people inside universities commenting right now.


Lots of people commenting lots of things. . . .

But the fact is, most schools are tuition dependent; they use 'merit' awards as a differential pricing mechanism. Rescinding merit would result in fewer (partial) tuition-paying students and a loss of income. Most schools outside of the T20 won't be able to afford that. They need those families who are chasing merit.

Income-based financial aid, much of which goes to students from families with very limited ability to pay, will suffer.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:23     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following:

--Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs
-- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment
--End of anything DEI
--End of merit aid
--End of any non-essential spending on student services

Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere.


My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?


My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants.

The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry.


spend some time away from here and on r/academia or r/professors or r/askacademia or r/highereducation.
so many people inside universities commenting right now.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:20     Subject: Re:Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Yes of course !! Why not? This is stupid
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:17     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just happy my daughter will get away from DC. If you live in the DC area, it is just a daily onslaught of everything politics and the resulting turmoil.


This, exactly. My DD has a couple of international options -- not clear yet if she will choose one of those schools or something else, but in any event she will be out of the DMV, which I think will be good for her mental health.


Yeah. I get this. Mine doesn't have international schools, but I think it will be good to get away from DC for awhile.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:15     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following:

--Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs
-- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment
--End of anything DEI
--End of merit aid
--End of any non-essential spending on student services

Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere.


My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?


My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants.

The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:06     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least trump will be gone by the time they graduate college.

But not Vance.


I used to think he was just a catty whiner but then I saw his speech about universities - he wants to destroy education and the educated.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw

HE IS A PROBLEM. He must go.


Agreed. Vance has a chip on his shoulder due to this upbringing and experience at Yale, where he felt like an outsider. He hung with a band of misfit kids and has never forgotten it and can't wait to stick it to all the "intellectual elites" who didn't accept him. I've rarely seen an elected politician who has as much money as he has (through Silicon Valley finance work, selling netflix rights to his wildly exaggerated book) be this bitter. He has a lot of hate in his heart. And he's taking it out on everyone else.


What misfits graduate from Yale law school?
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:04     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:No, our poor kids already had a pandemic middle school experience, and now they're starting college during a year where Trump (emotionally damaged, angry, narcissist), Vance (emotionally abused, angry) and Elon Musk (drug addict, self-admitted to be autistic, lacks empathy) are doing dangerous, destructive experiments on our country - including education and financial future.

I'm scared for our kids.


It'll be a bumpy ride for 4 years for sure.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 11:01     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:I think young adults graduating in the next two years will have it the worst. Second time this same group gets screwed by Trump.

Agreed. My DC is graduating this year and few of their friends have jobs. This is the class that had COVID fully disrupt their 11th and 12th grades of high school.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 10:38     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

I think young adults graduating in the next two years will have it the worst. Second time this same group gets screwed by Trump.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 10:33     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least trump will be gone by the time they graduate college.

But not Vance.


I used to think he was just a catty whiner but then I saw his speech about universities - he wants to destroy education and the educated.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw

HE IS A PROBLEM. He must go.


Agreed. Vance has a chip on his shoulder due to this upbringing and experience at Yale, where he felt like an outsider. He hung with a band of misfit kids and has never forgotten it and can't wait to stick it to all the "intellectual elites" who didn't accept him. I've rarely seen an elected politician who has as much money as he has (through Silicon Valley finance work, selling netflix rights to his wildly exaggerated book) be this bitter. He has a lot of hate in his heart. And he's taking it out on everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 10:24     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At least trump will be gone by the time they graduate college.

But not Vance.


I used to think he was just a catty whiner but then I saw his speech about universities - he wants to destroy education and the educated.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw

HE IS A PROBLEM. He must go.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2025 10:24     Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?

No, our poor kids already had a pandemic middle school experience, and now they're starting college during a year where Trump (emotionally damaged, angry, narcissist), Vance (emotionally abused, angry) and Elon Musk (drug addict, self-admitted to be autistic, lacks empathy) are doing dangerous, destructive experiments on our country - including education and financial future.

I'm scared for our kids.