Anonymous
02/17/2025 17:02
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How much is this about parents who genuinely care about what's best vs. people wrangling due to inconvenience to their work schedules?
Find me a study that says it's okay for kids to be in school until 4:30pm, PP. There aren't any.
My kids went to school 8:15 to around 3 (2:50?) in elementary school. We were able to do after school activities.
Honestly, I think some of these SLEEP studies are biased. For years, FCPS high school students went very early, maybe too early. However, the schools excelled then.
What am I missing here?
Stop calling studies that differ from your OPINION biased.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 16:43
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
No because plenty of elementary schools currently start well before 9 and will have to get pushed up. But you clearly don’t give a s#%* about anyone but yourself and your kids, much like most of this god forsaken country.
+1
Parents who enjoyed the elementary schedule for their kids and are now trying to screw over the younger kids who haven’t yet aged out.
Those people can pound sand.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 16:29
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
The good news is… we are only talking about 30 minutes, not 2 hours! But, thanks for playing, Op!Anonymous wrote:Elementary teacher here. I taught many years in a very early start school and then in one with a later start date-later by an hour. The early start was so much better. At the late school, kids were toast by three. Little kids are often up very early, and many went to morning day care, so by the time they got to school, they’d been up for two or three hours already and were done with following directions. There’s not really a good way to manage this with all the factors.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 15:53
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Elementary teacher here. I taught many years in a very early start school and then in one with a later start date-later by an hour. The early start was so much better. At the late school, kids were toast by three. Little kids are often up very early, and many went to morning day care, so by the time they got to school, they’d been up for two or three hours already and were done with following directions. There’s not really a good way to manage this with all the factors.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 15:17
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:what do you think kids in SACC programs are doing? Some are picked up at 6pm. Your comments are ignorant.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
It’s clear that PP is discussing developmentally appropriate instruction time. Kids will be sitting in SACC for 2 hours in the morning instead of 2 hours at the end of the day. It’s more conductive to learning for them to spend their morning in the classroom and their afternoon in SACC.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:58
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Op doesn’t want to change her work hours. That’s why she’s being a cry baby here. Well, this isn’t about just YOU, Op. It’s about getting all kids in FCPS developmentally appropriate sleep.
+1
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:56
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Op doesn’t want to change her work hours. That’s why she’s being a cry baby here. Well, this isn’t about just YOU, Op. It’s about getting all kids in FCPS developmentally appropriate sleep.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:50
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:what do you think kids in SACC programs are doing? Some are picked up at 6pm. Your comments are ignorant.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
They are not “learning” anything in SACC. It’s glorified babysitting. Come on people.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:47
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
what do you think kids in SACC programs are doing? Some are picked up at 6pm. Your comments are ignorant.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:40
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
That is not how I read the message.
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
Attention working parents who put your 7-8 year old kids in after school programs so you can pay for their clothes, home and food: according to above poster, you are awful and should quit so you are home by 3 for your kids or your are developmentally hurting them. Shame on all working parents that keep their kids out of the house until after 6. So selfish to try to make a living when should just be home with no job. Amazing any of those harmed kids have survived at all let alone get into college.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:40
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you. ES start times are all staggered currently and they would be all staggered in the solution. So, things are not so bleak as crazy Op makes you want to believe. All ES are not getting the latest time block as she keeps trying to infer as a scare tactic. I know we all resist change but please retain some flexibility for the betterment of the whole district’s children.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
This would mean out ES would start even earlier!!!! People on here do realize not every ES starts at same time now. If go to board docs in MS thread, there is exhibit tells all start and end times. For some E will be earlier and for some later.
+100
This isn't hard. If they select Option E, whatever your kid's ES start time is, push it back by 30 minutes. My kid's school start time is 9:20 am. So her start time would be 9:50 a.m. If your kid's ES start time is currently 9 a.m., it would get pushed back to 9:30 a.m.
30 minutes creating life and death situation here. Strange.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:38
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
Attention working parents who put your 7-8 year old kids in after school programs so you can pay for their clothes, home and food: according to above poster, you are awful and should quit so you are home by 3 for your kids or your are developmentally hurting them. Shame on all working parents that keep their kids out of the house until after 6. So selfish to try to make a living when should just be home with no job. Amazing any of those harmed kids have survived at all let alone get into college.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:29
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Thank you. ES start times are all staggered currently and they would be all staggered in the solution. So, things are not so bleak as crazy Op makes you want to believe. All ES are not getting the latest time block as she keeps trying to infer as a scare tactic. I know we all resist change but please retain some flexibility for the betterment of the whole district’s children.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
This would mean out ES would start even earlier!!!! People on here do realize not every ES starts at same time now. If go to board docs in MS thread, there is exhibit tells all start and end times. For some E will be earlier and for some later.
This is pretty transparently disingenuous, it's still about half the ES students in the county would be starting at 950a and getting out after 430p, which is ridiculous. Just because it's half ES students not all ES students doesn't really soften the point. There's no need for taking this route at all. Option C2 better achieves the goal of MS/HS start times of 830 or later, while keeping ES on a reasonable schedule. Younger kids don't struggle with 8a start times, and this allows all ES students to get out of school at a more appropriate hour. Hard to see any argument for E over C2 from a student health, safety, or performance perspective.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:28
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!
I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.
Anonymous
02/17/2025 14:22
Subject: Elementary parents, pay attention to start times
Anonymous wrote:Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.
Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!
There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!