I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

My parents are not sponging off anyone. They started working at age 16 making MANDATORY FICA DEDUCTIONS TO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE NEXT 52 YEARS! AND. BY GOD, THEY DESERVE EVERY EFFING PENNY THEY RECEIVE.

YES, I AM SCREAMING BECAUSE I AM SICK OF IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Furthermore, I have been making my MANDATORY FICA deductions since my first job at age 16'and I want every effing penny I am a entitled to, as well!

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I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

That’s what has to happen. Right now, the collective MAGA mind approves of this mess. The conversation is:

“Do you realize our SS numbers and financial info has been breached?”

“But what about Pelosi and Biden and Soros!”

There’s really very little hope for this to change until those folks are hurt.

Federal salaries make up only 5% of the budget...so this was inevitable. Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal elites keep in their own tiny bubble where their own fraud and waste don’t exist.
Good luck, PP!

Is it liberal elite to think that if you pay into something for decades it should not be stolen by billionaires?

Oh boy. You don't even know that your money is long gone. It was already paid out to past generation and into the government coffers. Their is nothing to steal. It is already gone. The only way to get payments is if you recruit new suckers(I mean taxpayers).

This is how social security works, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

He's not going after fraud. He's looking for where he can take to give to himself.

Yes, and it's especially infuriating to those of us with family members who have dedicated their professional lives to making the government work well. Then this arrogant prick comes along and trashes their work, tries to get them to quit, and lies about things he doesn't even have the background to comprehend.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

He's not going after fraud. He's looking for where he can take to give to himself.

You’d think that they couldn’t get any dumber, but the they are like, “Yes big sexy foreign agent, steal my own money from me to show the libs!!!”

Maybe we should get Senator Rick Scott on the case? He knows quite well how to defraud Medicare.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

He's not going after fraud. He's looking for where he can take to give to himself.

Anonymous wrote:Liberal elites keep in their own tiny bubble where their own fraud and waste don’t exist.
Good luck, PP!

No, we’d like real fraud to be found, and we have systems in place for this. Musk is not talking about real fraud. It’s imaginary.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

For those like you who are not paying attention and recognizing this psycho’s pattern, he arbitrarily declares fraud and then burns the whole thing down so there is nothing left. Wake up!

He’s counting on dumb people like the PP who just eat up his lies.

NP. The problem with responses like yours is that by going all the way to the extreme of suggesting that any fraud allegations are complete lies, you leave yourself open to be backhanded with the reams of evidence of fraud. You then look like a moron who is trying to cover up fraud.

There is indeed fraud. What we need to point out is that processes and procedures already exist to document and address fraud and waste in government spending. What Elon Musk is doing by reinventing the wheel is wasting government resources, driving costs even higher, and it's all a pretext to seize power for himself.

Dp here. Yes, this has been pointed out many times in this thread. It is not getting through to maga. Which is exactly why pp made that statement. They are completely ignoring calls for actual investigations. They are ignoring the fact that we already have people who do this. They are just blindly cheering Elon on as he burns the whole thing to the ground without giving us any evidence of fraud or waste.

My husband has worked for the gov for almost 30 years. He would love for someone to walk in and ask him where they should trim the fat. He has thoughts on that. But the firing of his co-worker who has been with the agency for years…simply because he recently got a promotion and is considered new? Firing the promising intern who is barely getting paid? This is not trimming the fat. This is making every agency and department less efficient and effective. But I guess that’s the point…

If he wants massive amounts of fraud, look into Veteran's disability benefits.

He will kick a huge hornet's nest.

There is social security disability fraud. We all know this, but my suspicion is that red states are the biggest beneficiaries of this fraud. It’s well known that poor whites in rural areas where there’s no jobs rely heavily on disability payments.

Musk and his findings: it’s bizarre how many people are willing to take his word as gospel on what he’s found. He has not presented any facts or numbers which show us where he’s finding fraud or how much.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal elites keep in their own tiny bubble where their own fraud and waste don’t exist.
Good luck, PP!

Is it liberal elite to think that if you pay into something for decades it should not be stolen by billionaires?

Oh boy. You don't even know that your money is long gone. It was already paid out to past generation and into the government coffers. Their is nothing to steal. It is already gone. The only way to get payments is if you recruit new suckers(I mean taxpayers).