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Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

The ASVAB covers
General Sciences

Arithmetic Reasoning

Word Knowledge

Paragraph Comprehension

Mathematics Knowledge

Electronics Information

Auto and Shop Information

Mechanical Comprehension

Assembling Objects

Verbal Expression

The minimum score is 31, but if you score between 31-49 you can take a one time course to up your score. Higher scores open better MOS opportunities. The score range is 0–100, and scores are reported as percentiles. The average score is 50, and most scores fall between 30 and 70. But you can't be truly low IQ in the clinical sense.

Yep it would be hard for someone of truly low IQ to score above a 31. It's a percentile score so you have to be in the top 69 percent of applicants, basically. Also, keep in mind that the bottom tail of the population is removed from this test pool since the very bottom tail in terms of IQ does not apply to the military (sadly the bottom tail of the population would be institutionalized or under someone else's care in most cases). So this means that you need to be the top 69 percent of a pool that is already more competitive than the general US population of the military eligible age.

Generally speaking, the modern military requires more high IQ people as a fraction of the military than the military of the past, too, so I think it's only going to get harder, unlike we (heaven forbid) end up in some major war where we are invaded and need people or something.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

The ASVAB covers
General Sciences

Arithmetic Reasoning

Word Knowledge

Paragraph Comprehension

Mathematics Knowledge

Electronics Information

Auto and Shop Information

Mechanical Comprehension

Assembling Objects

Verbal Expression

The minimum score is 31, but if you score between 31-49 you can take a one time course to up your score. Higher scores open better MOS opportunities. The score range is 0–100, and scores are reported as percentiles. The average score is 50, and most scores fall between 30 and 70. But you can't be truly low IQ in the clinical sense.

Cable technician
Flight attendant
Local state and city government jobs

Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

EMT? - you have to take a 12 week course, memorize a lot of stuff and pass a written and practical test.

Paramedic? - much longer training course, hundreds of hours of practice in the field and pass another written and practical test.

These jobs are blue collar, and the people who take them may be book smart or smart in other ways, but they are definitely smart although maybe not. rain surgery smart.

Firefighters also have to pass a rigorous fitness test and make it through a 26 week academy course. Again, maybe FFs aren't mostly book smart, but I wouldn't call them "low IQ".

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Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

No. None of these are suitable for someone who isn’t of average intelligence—at the very least.

You DCUM folks are confusing low education with low IQ. Not remotely the same thing.

OP needs to clarify what low IQ means.

I am not above poster but my assumption was OP is a 130 IQ talking about a 90 IQ person. Like an A student talking about someone who is scraping by in high school with C's but who could do fine at non-academic jobs.

My son has mentioned thinking about plumbing. It's a 5 year training and paid apprentice program in our unionized state. So that's not "low education" either.

My guess was middling real estate agent because there are some in my family who were pretty bad at school and good with people. The bar is raised when the market is bad or for high-priced real estate where clients expect better service. Low bar to getting into the field as an assistant/helper/paperwork admin. But the economics of commissions are worsening.

And, I would also say that for professions like nursing or plumbing or electrians, you do have to be higher IQ. I've known lower IQ people who either failed out or been kicked out of those jobs, if they even made it through college / training.

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Anonymous wrote:Sales and retail. Will take a while to make 75k+

Firefighter, police officer (probably won't progress too far, but would do a decent job).

Pharma sales rep. Has to have cheerleader type personality and be good looking.

None of the above are for people with actual low IQ.

Retail--see above in this thread. Need a degree to be a manager and need to pass exams and trainings. Pharma sales--need a bachelor's degree and need to pass trainings/exams on different products. Low IQ person will fail out of the product trainings.

Firefighter and police--need to pass aptitude exams to get into academy, need to pass multiple exams while in academy, need to demonstrate on the job strong decisonmaking/reasoning ability.

I am the pp and yet I know low IQ people who barely graduated from high school who have done all of these things. Many lower IQ people can memorize quite well.

You do not need a college degree to be a manager at a retail store. Many retail managers have degrees, but you can also work your way up. You won't make 75k+ but you can work your way up.

One of my relatives is in sales for construction materials and they make 100k+ with a high school diploma. Again, it took them years, but they are now a VP of sales.

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Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

Nurse?

My DD is in college for nursing. She is currently taking Calculus, Anatomy, Chemistry, and Pharmacology…. all in one semester.

It’s a challenging courseload.

What compelled you to come into this thread and make it an opportunity to brag about your daughter incessantly? It’s so odd. Congrats, I guess? Nobody cares.

She was making a point that a nursing degree is not for a low IQ person. What is wrong with people today?

Thank you. I’m that PP.

I thought that was an odd comment. Bragging incessantly? I made one comment, so hardly incessantly. And bragging? I didn’t even write how she’s doing. She’s actually struggling.

But leave it DCUM to find a way to be unnecessarily rude.

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Anonymous wrote:What about hvac repair, plumber, electrician. I was reading about some boxer who discovered he was autistic as an adult and he had been diagnosed during his schooling as low iq and prior to boxing was an electrician. That said…who knows what his non verbal iq was.

You DCUM folks really don’t know what on earth you are talking about with this stuff. All of this class snobbishness about the trades reveals it.

I know nothing about HVAC, but plumbing and working as an electrician are way out of reach for someone with low iq.

+1 do you really want a low IQ electrician burning down your house? It takes mentally demanding training to qualify as an electrician.

Preacher, for the win!

Anonymous wrote:What about hvac repair, plumber, electrician. I was reading about some boxer who discovered he was autistic as an adult and he had been diagnosed during his schooling as low iq and prior to boxing was an electrician. That said…who knows what his non verbal iq was.

I am telling you from experience that if you put a very hard-working child, who is not playing with a full deck of cards, into one of these professions, they will ruin their bodies trying to meet the demands of their bosses long before they get the experience to parlay it into something sustainable.

Even for the neurotypical, from a long-term perspective these careers are only worth going into if you are going to be gaining experience to start your own business where you are your own boss and can hire employees for when the physical aspects become too much for you.

Anonymous wrote:What about hvac repair, plumber, electrician. I was reading about some boxer who discovered he was autistic as an adult and he had been diagnosed during his schooling as low iq and prior to boxing was an electrician. That said…who knows what his non verbal iq was.

You DCUM folks really don’t know what on earth you are talking about with this stuff. All of this class snobbishness about the trades reveals it.

I know nothing about HVAC, but plumbing and working as an electrician are way out of reach for someone with low iq.

Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine

These types of children need to be steered into low IQ sports like football.