Anonymous wrote:Perhaps DOGE will next create a website showing all the taxpayer $$ going to Musk-owned businesses, like the planned $400M DOS contract for teslas.

That would be helpful to see.

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Anonymous wrote:WTF do these numbers even mean? This says the average DOC worker makes 120k a year. That's bull. I've worked there. There's no way that's true. It was really hard to get a gs 14 - there aren't many

GS-14 is the most common grade at my DOC bureau. I'm guessing you don't work in one of the STEM centric DOC bureaus?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I see the issue. I'm very proud of our salaries. Our head person makes like 250k, has 3 Ivy League diplomas and decades of experience. Contrast that to a CEO salary like Boeing making 32 million dollars.

Yeah, but Boeing delivers an actual product.

...that falls out of the sky....

fixed that for you.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Just wow that you don't think occupation, education, regional cost of living, and affordability of child care have anything to do with these stats.

I was a fed in the 90s. I reached GS-13 by late 20s. I left government service in part because I couldn't afford a house in the town where I lived along the metro line.

People who resent feds don't want anyone to have a better life than their own. They don't think feds are deserving, mostly because of anti-government beliefs. We know!

Everything plays badly in flyover country because the media thrives on outrage. That's not new either.

Also consider that premium undergrads just out of school are in that same $80K-$100K wage range. With very little work experience.

There's a strong trend of anti-education and anti-expertise among MAGA types. My chronically unemployed MAGA brother in law openly bullied my husband when he was admitted to college, and then mocked my husband's engineering PhD. He'd be the first to complain about how unfair it is that my husband makes a decent salary working for the US military.

These MAGA types just like my BIL, they are just losers who couldn't cut it in school and couldn't make anything of their lives (BIL got fired from driving a truck multiple times). So now they want to tear down everyone else too.

And I'd also bet, like BIL, they collect their disability checks.

I can see why your BIL doesn’t like you when you speak about him in such terms. Just like Trump voters resent Federal employees who express the sentiments evident in this thread.

My BIL is a nasty racist bully. He literally punched my husband when he announced he was going to college. I don't care if MAGA types like him like me.

And yes, you MAGA guys are all like him, big bullies who want to destroy people out of their own pathetic inadequacy.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Musk is going to include that 13 Billion dollars in government contracts that his companies have received. He should list that grift.

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

This is where you think waste is? OMG.

You’re the one complaining about the simple site. Do you want them to spend more money on it? They are focused on Draining the Swamp, not web design.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Cool story, bro. Come back to us when your baby dies from an unsafe drug or your should-have-been-recalled car catches fire or you’re puking your guts out from an undisclosed E. coli outbreak. You really think people are being paid to do nothing?

Yes, yes you’ve said this in other threads. Scare tactics seem to be your forte. I doubt you perform either of these functions. Some Feds will stay of course, but the vast majority do not perform these essential functions from their living rooms.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of middle and UMC MAGAs that make $80k plus. A police officer or a firefighter could clear that easily with all their paid OT. Experienced teachers especially in the Rust Belt or NE states that tend to pay well, and by experienced I mean 20+ years which you can get by your mid 40s if you start teaching right out of college. School district admins, nurses, people who own a few properties/small time landlords, even full time retail or restaurant management! It’s a mistake to assume all Trump supporters live in a trailer in a holler and get disability and Medicaid.

So why are they so jealous of others making $80k salaries?

We’re not jealous, we just don’t want to pay for it. Go get a job in private industry.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I see the issue. I'm very proud of our salaries. Our head person makes like 250k, has 3 Ivy League diplomas and decades of experience. Contrast that to a CEO salary like Boeing making 32 million dollars.

Yeah, but Boeing delivers an actual product.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Just wow that you don't think occupation, education, regional cost of living, and affordability of child care have anything to do with these stats.

I was a fed in the 90s. I reached GS-13 by late 20s. I left government service in part because I couldn't afford a house in the town where I lived along the metro line.

People who resent feds don't want anyone to have a better life than their own. They don't think feds are deserving, mostly because of anti-government beliefs. We know!

Everything plays badly in flyover country because the media thrives on outrage. That's not new either.

Also consider that premium undergrads just out of school are in that same $80K-$100K wage range. With very little work experience.

There's a strong trend of anti-education and anti-expertise among MAGA types. My chronically unemployed MAGA brother in law openly bullied my husband when he was admitted to college, and then mocked my husband's engineering PhD. He'd be the first to complain about how unfair it is that my husband makes a decent salary working for the US military.

These MAGA types just like my BIL, they are just losers who couldn't cut it in school and couldn't make anything of their lives (BIL got fired from driving a truck multiple times). So now they want to tear down everyone else too.

And I'd also bet, like BIL, they collect their disability checks.

I can see why your BIL doesn’t like you when you speak about him in such terms. Just like Trump voters resent Federal employees who express the sentiments evident in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Anonymous wrote:WTF do these numbers even mean? This says the average DOC worker makes 120k a year. That's bull. I've worked there. There's no way that's true. It was really hard to get a gs 14 - there aren't many

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Feds don’t mostly work from home. Most work in the office. And how is it out of touch?

It’s out of touch to act like an $80K/year salary is nothing and shouldn’t be a target for government waste investigations. That was my point.

80k/year is not a high salary for a lawyer, doctor, or someone with a PhD. The government employs a lot of people with experience and education.

govt benefits make total come like 250k a year for an 80k worker