Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:54     Subject: Re:Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Trump just rescued us from paper straws hallelujah
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:53     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:Voter surveys are saying that most Americans approve of the things Trump is doing.


They probably don't understand most of the stuff is illegal. We need Republicans to tell them because they won't believe Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:48     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.

Biden didn’t push them through. All remaining forgiveness was accomplished under existing programs like PSLF. His administration complied with every court order immediately. Stuff like the SAVE plan was frozen and stayed that way.

Of course, it’s insane that you think providing debt relief to people is even remotely comparable to firing employees without cause, freezing money that feeds starving children, or cutting off funding for cancer research.

Regardless, if what Biden did is so awful in your eyes, there is no possible way for you to defend Trump’s efforts now. You cannot claim Biden somehow attempted to exceed his authority more than Trump is now. At best, they’re the same. In which case you should be up in arms at Trump. But you’re not. Why?


PP is gutless, cruel, and utterly stupid POS, that's why.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:38     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Voter surveys are saying that most Americans approve of the things Trump is doing.


This is absolute hogwash. But sure manipulate the polls.


Shockingly, I think this is true. The latest poll I saw should trump with a 53% approval rating. I couldn't believe it! I think until his moves affect the average American, most people do support the crap he's doing. They voted for him to shake things up and that's what they see.

Here in the DMV we feel his wrath because of federal jobs and contracts, but the vast majority of the US doesn't. I think until something major happens- social security payments are delayed or Medicare payments to hospitals are disrupted because 20 year olds are using AI to mess with complex systems- most Americans, including the Rs in congress, will turn a blind eye


So far they are going after things that are relatively unpopular, especially with conservatives. DEI, USAID, and a generic “fraud”. Even the Ds have admitted that foreign aid is not a hill they will die on, even if they think it is a good idea. Attacking research is a tougher battle, but they’re already spinning it as attacking “woke” colleges. CFPB doesn’t register with the public and people don’t really know what Dept of Education does.

So, I’m not surprised that there isn’t any blowback yet. It all comes down to the economy and people’s pocketbooks.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:32     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:Congress can end this mess if they come together and recognize as fellow human beings who also have to live in this country that the situation at hand IS, NOT, RIGHT.

Someone is basically walking around your house, declaring they own it while trashing every room. And no, they don’t own it.

Will any of them wake up, be honest with themselves, be brave? This is bad for all of us. So they piss off their fellow Republicans—they’ll get over it. Get voted out and write a book and go on the lecture circuit about what it took to save a democracy and stand up for the US Constitution.


Republican Senator Katie Britt of Alabama is suddenly concerned over Trump's cuts to NIH grants—now that they’re hurting the University of Alabama, the state’s largest employer. Funny how quickly perspectives shift when Republicans feel the impact firsthand. It’s all fine until the suffering lands in their own backyard!
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 08:12     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Voter surveys are saying that most Americans approve of the things Trump is doing.


This is absolute hogwash. But sure manipulate the polls.


Shockingly, I think this is true. The latest poll I saw should trump with a 53% approval rating. I couldn't believe it! I think until his moves affect the average American, most people do support the crap he's doing. They voted for him to shake things up and that's what they see.

Here in the DMV we feel his wrath because of federal jobs and contracts, but the vast majority of the US doesn't. I think until something major happens- social security payments are delayed or Medicare payments to hospitals are disrupted because 20 year olds are using AI to mess with complex systems- most Americans, including the Rs in congress, will turn a blind eye


The question is are the red states actually feeling the pain of current actions.

I know the junior senator from Alabama is kind of going nuts over the cut to NIH funding because UAB and UAB Birmingham really, really need that money and they are big employers.

I guess for now they are treated the same as UC Berkeley…I guess?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:58     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Voter surveys are saying that most Americans approve of the things Trump is doing.


This is absolute hogwash. But sure manipulate the polls.


Shockingly, I think this is true. The latest poll I saw should trump with a 53% approval rating. I couldn't believe it! I think until his moves affect the average American, most people do support the crap he's doing. They voted for him to shake things up and that's what they see.

Here in the DMV we feel his wrath because of federal jobs and contracts, but the vast majority of the US doesn't. I think until something major happens- social security payments are delayed or Medicare payments to hospitals are disrupted because 20 year olds are using AI to mess with complex systems- most Americans, including the Rs in congress, will turn a blind eye
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:51     Subject: Re:Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

No, they are all bowing down to Emperor Elon and his Truppet gleefully.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:51     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.

Biden didn’t push them through. All remaining forgiveness was accomplished under existing programs like PSLF. His administration complied with every court order immediately. Stuff like the SAVE plan was frozen and stayed that way.

Of course, it’s insane that you think providing debt relief to people is even remotely comparable to firing employees without cause, freezing money that feeds starving children, or cutting off funding for cancer research.

Regardless, if what Biden did is so awful in your eyes, there is no possible way for you to defend Trump’s efforts now. You cannot claim Biden somehow attempted to exceed his authority more than Trump is now. At best, they’re the same. In which case you should be up in arms at Trump. But you’re not. Why?


+1000. Biden complied with all the court decisions even when they were transparent political BS.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:50     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.


Not remotely similar. Biden tried to do what he wanted and stopped when a court told him he couldn’t. Then he tried again. And again stopped. Trump has given an unelected, unvetted billionaire who takes billions in government subsidies access to all of our sensitive systems and personal information. He has made our systems vulnerable to cyberattacks. He is allowing that person to cut things funded by congress. He hasn’t followed court orders to unfreeze grants.

While I probably wouldn’t agree with his choices, Trump is entitled to make cuts within his purview. But he isn’t entitled to disregard the constitution like he is a king or dictator. He needs to work through the intentionally slow process set up by the constitution. And it’s troubling that so many maga are so quick to give up on the constitution.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:44     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.



I’ve worked in policy positions in the government for 30 years and I know exactly **no-one** who behaves this way. It’s the right’s favorite urban myth about feds.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:33     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.


Donald Trump is trying to legalize political corruption for everyone by revoking the foreign corrupt practices act. He’s fired every internal watch dog and has given Americans PII to teenage cyber criminals with nazi sympathies. He is gutting agencies that keep us safe and healthy, and is trying to fire every FBI agent who worked on J6. The student loan forgiveness plan was an overreach, but it is not comparable. It was not a constitutional crisis.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:32     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.

Biden didn’t push them through. All remaining forgiveness was accomplished under existing programs like PSLF. His administration complied with every court order immediately. Stuff like the SAVE plan was frozen and stayed that way.

Of course, it’s insane that you think providing debt relief to people is even remotely comparable to firing employees without cause, freezing money that feeds starving children, or cutting off funding for cancer research.

Regardless, if what Biden did is so awful in your eyes, there is no possible way for you to defend Trump’s efforts now. You cannot claim Biden somehow attempted to exceed his authority more than Trump is now. At best, they’re the same. In which case you should be up in arms at Trump. But you’re not. Why?


Because PP is a hack.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:31     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.

Biden didn’t push them through. All remaining forgiveness was accomplished under existing programs like PSLF. His administration complied with every court order immediately. Stuff like the SAVE plan was frozen and stayed that way.

Of course, it’s insane that you think providing debt relief to people is even remotely comparable to firing employees without cause, freezing money that feeds starving children, or cutting off funding for cancer research.

Regardless, if what Biden did is so awful in your eyes, there is no possible way for you to defend Trump’s efforts now. You cannot claim Biden somehow attempted to exceed his authority more than Trump is now. At best, they’re the same. In which case you should be up in arms at Trump. But you’re not. Why?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2025 07:28     Subject: Is there hope of even a single Republican coming to the rescue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a family member work in first Trump administration but is not returning due to J6. Person was in a non controversial position doing policies even Obama had wanted. Career staff was blatantly uncooperative and stalled projects.

I can’t wait for the end of the Deep State nonsense. Maybe this time around career staff will actually do their jobs.


Once again for the people in the back, there is no Deep State. The first Trump administration was like this one, just much more subdued - a bunch of EOs of dubious legality and zero practicality that the career staff had no idea what to do with. Politicals who had no idea how the agencies and laws were set up and didn’t understand appropriations. No budgets passed. And the bureaucracy is designed on purpose to thwart the kind of thing that is going on now, but setting into law procedures and protections to ensure that someone doesn’t just come in and raid the treasury or some weird thing like that.


Oh, like the student loan EOs of no legality that Biden then doubled down on and openly said he would push through just to see what he could get by with? Both sides play this game, you just don’t like this one. We’ve been there too and had to lump it, so do you.


Really? You are comparing those two things? Apples and oranges. Holy cow! What Biden did was within his purview. What musk is doing is not. But the Republicans are too scared to stop him.
Again. Not even remotely similar.