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Anonymous wrote:Yes! Weightloss dogs for everyone who wants to accept the risks of thyroid tumors and organ failure!

Oh silly girl, why are you so worked up about this? You’ve got a problem

I don’t think PP is the one worked up about this. She stated some facts and you didn’t like them.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes! Weightloss dogs for everyone who wants to accept the risks of thyroid tumors and organ failure!

Oh silly girl, why are you so worked up about this? You’ve got a problem

So, you feel the need to write this stupid patronizing thing -- "Oh silly girl" -- in response to bringing up the serious risks of these medications? Sounds to me like you have a problem. Or several. DP (who is more familiar with the side effects than she'd like to be).

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.

Did you read the OP? Did you catch the part about her always being slim and still using these drugs? I hope you plan to kick her too.

OP here again. Yes I have always been slim, but I wouldn't consider myself naturally slim or effortlessly slim. It was a painful fight every day...I would venture to say every HOUR...of my life.

Well, that sounds like an eating disorder. DP

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Oh silly girl, why are you so worked up about this? You’ve got a problem

Anonymous wrote:So these drugs work by suppressing appetite and lowering insulin resistance?

I have never understood why it is said that you have to stay on the drugs for lifetime, because I always thought, couldn’t one just keep with reduced eating habits once they lost weight. The insulin part explains why you can’t go off, I guess.

I don’t understand how people can, without health reasons, go on a medicine that they’ll be on forever without knowing long term effects of that.

Fwiw, I am 40 pounds overweight and pre-diabetic, so I’d love a magic pill. But I’m too nervous about not understanding the long term effects, plus I have ibs and gi dysmotility, so the last thing I want to do is mess further with the area.

I am the same -- I figure we know the risks of the bolded

Yes! Weightloss dogs for everyone who wants to accept the risks of thyroid tumors and organ failure!

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.

Did you read the OP? Did you catch the part about her always being slim and still using these drugs? I hope you plan to kick her too.

OP here again. Yes I have always been slim, but I wouldn't consider myself naturally slim or effortlessly slim. It was a painful fight every day...I would venture to say every HOUR...of my life.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.

Exactly. And just because you're not overweight doesn't mean it's not a mighty struggle to stay that way. As I said, look at the thousands upon thousands of posts here on this discussion board about how to stay thin, how to resist cravings, how to burn calories, track calories, how to muster up willpower. It's freaking exhausting and consuming for so many women. These meds are such a gift, as Oprah once said. I watched her special about GLP-1s and she marveled something like, "All these years, I thought you thin people had more willpower than I did. But now I realize, ya'll just weren't thinking about FOOD!"

But that's SO not true for me. I feel like I have been warring just as hard as anyone all these years to monitor my weight, and now, on these meds, I feel FREE for the very first time in adult life. I am so excited about their impact on my life. I feel so optimistic and excited about a future without always berating myself about food, thinking about food and what I will/should eat...and just eating for nourishment rather than to satisfy intense and unhealthy cravings.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. They should be available for every woman in peri-menopause. I still enjoy eating but I don't constantly think about it all day long.

No, the really unpopular opinion is that so many excuses here are just about lack of discipline and it’s very sad for our population that you need pharmaceuticals rather than implementing and maintaining good habits


You think saying everyone should get weight loss drugs is unpopular? Look around, it’s an echo chamber.

I am very confident when I say that I was doing everything right in terms of exercising and tracking calories, and was still gaining weight in peri-menopause. It was not lack of good habits.

Are you eating and exercising the same amount as before?

And to be clear, I am extremely skeptical that you are eating as much on this drug as you were off it. The whole point of this drug slows down your digestion and suppresses hunger.

It does more than that. It also affects insulin resistance, which is a big reason why fat is stored on the body. It's not just an appetite suppressant.

Yes, that’s why they are indicated for people with actual metabolic risk, not for people who are upset about vanity pounds.

There is significant overlap when it comes to older women.

A1C

So you are telling me all of these physicians are checking these women's glucose levels and A1C before prescribing these drugs? And they are picking these drugs over metformin?

My physician did check my glucose and prescribed both (meformin and Wegovy)

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. They should be available for every woman in peri-menopause. I still enjoy eating but I don't constantly think about it all day long.

No, the really unpopular opinion is that so many excuses here are just about lack of discipline and it’s very sad for our population that you need pharmaceuticals rather than implementing and maintaining good habits


You think saying everyone should get weight loss drugs is unpopular? Look around, it’s an echo chamber.

I am very confident when I say that I was doing everything right in terms of exercising and tracking calories, and was still gaining weight in peri-menopause. It was not lack of good habits.

Are you eating and exercising the same amount as before?

And to be clear, I am extremely skeptical that you are eating as much on this drug as you were off it. The whole point of this drug slows down your digestion and suppresses hunger.

It does more than that. It also affects insulin resistance, which is a big reason why fat is stored on the body. It's not just an appetite suppressant.

So are you eating the same as before?

I'm certain I'm eating less. (I never claimed I wasn't - you made that up. I said I had good habits.) But before I was counting every calorie and completely obsessed with food and still gaining weight despite working out. I am a very disciplined person but I couldn't cut enough calories to lose weight and maintain it without eventually falling off the wagon and binging. If you don't know, you don't know. I am 100% confident I did what I reasonably could to avoid taking it, and I feel better taking it. No one needs to justify it.

My post was tongue in cheek because of course you are eating less and losing weight. Discipline would be to eat at or under your caloric limit and not over. It’s hard, but no you were not disciplined. You ate over your body’s limit. That’s just life.

You clearly don't understand female hormones during peri menopause. Please kindly F off.

Even in peri menopause, it’s still about calories consumed. Sorry that causes you so much distress.

I have not found that to be the case. I mean odd that I wound have no problem until peri and then become a sloppy undisciplined lazy cow overnight, don’t ya think?
I believe there is still a lot to be learned about how women’s hormones affect insulin levels. Many people believe it’s more complicated than calories in and calories out.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. They should be available for every woman in peri-menopause. I still enjoy eating but I don't constantly think about it all day long.

No, the really unpopular opinion is that so many excuses here are just about lack of discipline and it’s very sad for our population that you need pharmaceuticals rather than implementing and maintaining good habits


You think saying everyone should get weight loss drugs is unpopular? Look around, it’s an echo chamber.

I am very confident when I say that I was doing everything right in terms of exercising and tracking calories, and was still gaining weight in peri-menopause. It was not lack of good habits.

Are you eating and exercising the same amount as before?

And to be clear, I am extremely skeptical that you are eating as much on this drug as you were off it. The whole point of this drug slows down your digestion and suppresses hunger.

It does more than that. It also affects insulin resistance, which is a big reason why fat is stored on the body. It's not just an appetite suppressant.

So are you eating the same as before?

I'm certain I'm eating less. (I never claimed I wasn't - you made that up. I said I had good habits.) But before I was counting every calorie and completely obsessed with food and still gaining weight despite working out. I am a very disciplined person but I couldn't cut enough calories to lose weight and maintain it without eventually falling off the wagon and binging. If you don't know, you don't know. I am 100% confident I did what I reasonably could to avoid taking it, and I feel better taking it. No one needs to justify it.

My post was tongue in cheek because of course you are eating less and losing weight. Discipline would be to eat at or under your caloric limit and not over. It’s hard, but no you were not disciplined. You ate over your body’s limit. That’s just life.

You clearly don't understand female hormones during peri menopause. Please kindly F off.

Agree. Women gain, on average 12 lbs a decade, which is twice as much as men. We're lucky to have this newish drug.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.

Did you read the OP? Did you catch the part about her always being slim and still using these drugs? I hope you plan to kick her too.

I can relate to OP. Before semaglutide, the only way I could stay thin was by constantly denying myself what I wanted and feeling deprived when I didn't get it. Semaglutide takes away food cravings and allows me to eat for fuel. My mental state is much improved.

Everyone always gets so salty about this topic. Which proves OP’s point, I think. We are all in our heads about weight and self-discipline and spending way too much mental energy on it. Plus all the judgement! Who cares how people get thin! It’s no skin off your nose.

OP- enjoy it!

I am overweight by about 10-15 pounds but 40 pounds more than the weight I was during most of my adult life, even after children. Perimenopause gave me my last 15 pounds despite doing nothing different at all. Anyway, BMI is 28 and my PCP recommended I see a nutritionist in the office. She was ready to give me drugs right away if I wanted, but we talked and I’m trying some changes in my diet and exercise for two months. If I don’t see a change, I’m going to try a weight loss drug.

She told me that I could probably lose 10-15 pounds through calorie reduction and really watching my life but beyond that, people just don’t drop 30-40 pounds without help.

I wonder if people get angry about dermatological procedures that make people look younger but require maintenance. I don’t think they do quite as much as these weight loss drugs. Wrinkles are not someone’s “fault” and the result of lack of discipline, I suppose the thinking goes.

Anyway, good luck to all of us!

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.

Did you read the OP? Did you catch the part about her always being slim and still using these drugs? I hope you plan to kick her too.

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you have a lifelong eating disorder. They are not for everyone.

Are you naturally slim? You can exit the conversation. It's not disordered to be the person that has spent many years on diets and is still overweight or at an ideal weight but the maintenance is exhausting.