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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

Oh, to be a fly on the wall! What a strange combination of cutthroat and naive you are…

Lol, whatever helps you sleep at night. A few of my DC’s friends with early, non-binding admits are also applying to additional schools (that they are seriously considering) in RD. They’re neither entitled nor hypocritical.

I can assure you: people meeting these criteria keep me awake at night; they are the villains of history.

What do you think a kid should do who was deferred from HYPSM (but didn't have a clear first choice and would've still applied to a few others to also compare FA) and then receives a likely from one of the other HYPSM they applied RD?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

Oh, to be a fly on the wall! What a strange combination of cutthroat and naive you are…

Lol, whatever helps you sleep at night. A few of my DC’s friends with early, non-binding admits are also applying to additional schools (that they are seriously considering) in RD. They’re neither entitled nor hypocritical.

This thread is specific to HYPSM.

Nobody cares if you have an EA admit to USC as example.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

Oh, to be a fly on the wall! What a strange combination of cutthroat and naive you are…

Lol, whatever helps you sleep at night. A few of my DC’s friends with early, non-binding admits are also applying to additional schools (that they are seriously considering) in RD. They’re neither entitled nor hypocritical.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

Oh, to be a fly on the wall! What a strange combination of cutthroat and naive you are…

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is the definition of a person who has no moral compass whatsoever.

Moral compass?

Get a grip son.

A bunch of over-privileged private school kids complaining about life being unfair because someone better than them won't step aside to make room for them.

Thank you. The hypocrisy is real.

PP

It's not so much hypocrisy as it is an overdeveloped sense of privilege and entitlement.

Unless these people would force their *truthfully undecided* kid to step aside for someone else’s, it is indeed hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS got into Yale early, and still applied to 7 other schools RD because Yale was not necessarily the dream, just the right combination of seeming more reachable for STEM (compared to HPSM early), non-binding, and being a school that DS visited and liked. When it was all said and done DS ended up at Duke.

I think all this thread proves is that the "holistic admissions process" does not select for character. Rest assured, karma is real.

Karma? Character?

Why should they give up their hard earned options so your kid can have unearned options?

What is this affirmative action for mediocre rich kids?

+1, as if PP's kid choosing to go to Duke over Yale was the reason the kids of each of the posters complaining here didn't get into Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS got into Yale early, and still applied to 7 other schools RD because Yale was not necessarily the dream, just the right combination of seeming more reachable for STEM (compared to HPSM early), non-binding, and being a school that DS visited and liked. When it was all said and done DS ended up at Duke.

I think all this thread proves is that the "holistic admissions process" does not select for character. Rest assured, karma is real.

Karma? Character?

Why should they give up their hard earned options so your kid can have unearned options?

What is this affirmative action for mediocre rich kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is the definition of a person who has no moral compass whatsoever.

Moral compass?

Get a grip son.

A bunch of over-privileged private school kids complaining about life being unfair because someone better than them won't step aside to make room for them.

Thank you. The hypocrisy is real.

PP

It's not so much hypocrisy as it is an overdeveloped sense of privilege and entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

Maybe it's different for law firms but our firm sometimes has a lot of columbia grads and sometimes a lot of NYU grads in the incoming class at the NY office.
We make offers to the ones we think are the best, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say, WELP, that's 30 offers to Columbia students, I think we should save the rest for NYU students.
What might make more of a difference is a history of students from one school interviewing with us and then declining offers at an abnormally high rate.
There are definitely schools we don't really take that seriously because we don't think working at a law firm is their first choice.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

I get it...but you are the one that brought up the job example. My only point is that is a directly analogous example to what people are complaining about in this thread that actually does happen for college internships and offers.

Yes, the multiple job offers is a good analogy. Looking at one or two or even three other schools when your child is not bound to attend anywhere is not trophy hunting. Trophy hunting was my friend from my small private high school, who SCEA'd at Yale and then applied to ten more schools just to - I kid you not - frame acceptance letters at her parents' home before she went to... drum roll... Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

I get it...but you are the one that brought up the job example. My only point is that is a directly analogous example to what people are complaining about in this thread that actually does happen for college internships and offers.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's obnoxious if you're only applying to a couple others that you are seriously considering, and that you may go to in lieu of the REA school.

It would be obnoxious if you have no intention of going or if you apply to a lot more schools - more than you are seriously considering.

Back in the day, I got into a HYPSM early. I still applied RD to two more schools because I wasn't yet sold on the REA.

This, one advantage of REA is that the kid is not bound. There is a difference between trophy hunting and applying to one or two other schools a kid is really interested in.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.

DC’s friends have supported DC’s decision, just as DC has supported theirs. It’s random people who have felt entitled to more than courtesy. There is no “I really want to work at Google but maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia” - it’s “I have no clear favorite but applied to Google first because there was a tiny advantage in doing so. Google has no issue with me also applying to Meta and Nvidia, and in fact has accounted for the possibility I may decline their offer by extending more offers than available positions and also maintaining a backup list of other applicants.”

Anonymous wrote:OP here. As previously mentioned, my DC applied to 2 (not 20 or 7 or even 4 - albeit I’m not judging those who did, either, if that’s what made sense for their individual circumstances) schools in RD that they would seriously consider attending over their early, non-binding admit. In our family’s view, they were indeed courteous of their classmates and friends, as they had 8 other RD apps to various T15 schools completed but declined to submit.

Not sure why some PPs feel entitled to more than courtesy. Have you never applied to more than one job and weighed the best offer for you and your family before deciding which to accept?

Just FYI, but your kid's friends will be pissed if your kid really wants to work at Google (tells friends about this), gets an offer from Google...but then says, you know maybe I will see about Meta and Nvidia too.

It is the same concept. Those companies try to spread offers to multiple target schools, so one kid getting all three in theory is taking offers from other kids.