Anonymous
Post 02/25/2025 18:51     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:CH isn't just serving the top students. They accept students that Gilman wouldn't so of course their test scores reflect that.

My DS had a very good experience at CH. Non nonsense, very clear behavioral expectations and consequences. My kid knew what the consequence was for whatever rule he broke. They don't play around.

He was able to take a few AP classes in what he was good at and also get a lot of help at school in what he wasn't. They have a math resource center and an academic one. His teachers were great and would always answer my questions. He took a course for kids with ADHD as a 9th grader that set him up for organizational success. That plus the very clear deadlines helped him become very successful. College has been easy for him because of this.


The test scores discussed on this thread are specific to the McMullen scholars. The info sheet presents them in subgroups.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2025 15:53     Subject: admissions 2025
CH isn't just serving the top students. They accept students that Gilman wouldn't so of course their test scores reflect that.

My DS had a very good experience at CH. Non nonsense, very clear behavioral expectations and consequences. My kid knew what the consequence was for whatever rule he broke. They don't play around.

He was able to take a few AP classes in what he was good at and also get a lot of help at school in what he wasn't. They have a math resource center and an academic one. His teachers were great and would always answer my questions. He took a course for kids with ADHD as a 9th grader that set him up for organizational success. That plus the very clear deadlines helped him become very successful. College has been easy for him because of this.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2025 09:33     Subject: admissions 2025
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.


Cue the a$$-hattery of 'certain subset' of Gilman person.


There’s nothing more Baltimore than petty slapfests between private school rivals. And the sniping continues on, as it has for a thousand years.


Not sure what you are prattling about, a poster asked the pros and cons of each, compared to one another.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2025 09:31     Subject: admissions 2025
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.



And they’re the top 10% of Calvert Hall’s scores. High scores are a requirement for that program and about 10% qualify.



Some would be in top third at Gilman and others wouldn’t, that’s how median works. In any case, your choice is (1) to be at the top of a smaller cohort of smart kids, or (2) to have to work a little harder among a more talented pool of peers, academically. There are obviously pluses and minuses to both. I’d add the co ed classes and truly excellent college counseling as a plus in the Gilman column.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2025 06:46     Subject: admissions 2025
McMullen is great. My DS did it. Classes are bigger at CH and teachers put up with less nonsense. They had a no phone inside policy ling before the tri schools did - and it worked. DS had some great teachers and some so-so teachers. It is refreshing to be with more economically diverse families.
Biggest difference will be in college acceptances. Many more CH McM scholars go to UMd - some for $ but some bc they simply aren’t getting into Cornell etc. Gilman def has an edge if you care about college name.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 19:45     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.


Cue the a$$-hattery of 'certain subset' of Gilman person.


There’s nothing more Baltimore than petty slapfests between private school rivals. And the sniping continues on, as it has for a thousand years.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 19:24     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.


Cue the a$$-hattery of 'certain subset' of Gilman person.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 18:58     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.



And they’re the top 10% of Calvert Hall’s scores. High scores are a requirement for that program and about 10% qualify.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 18:26     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
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Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.


Stop being dense. It’s barely within the middle 50%. You’re acting like their scores would be the average at Gilman. They wouldn’t. They would likely be in the top third.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 16:49     Subject: Re:admissions 2025
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Would like to hear thoughts on the rigor of the McMullen Scholars program at Calvert Hall compared to academic rigor at Gilman.
And also other (non-academic) opinions sought too -- culture, etc. I understand very different schools from a religious/non-religious standpoint (we are open to either). My DS loved his shadow day at both. Thanks for any input to help with this tough decision.


Academic rigor much higher at Gilman, it isn’t remotely close.


Serious question. How would you know if the rigor of two schools is actually comparable? Two different kids will take the same class and one will find it easy and one will find it hard.

If your kid is getting Bs at Gilman, it doesn't necessarily mean it's rigorous. There are families at ALL the schools who use this excuse for a mediocre report card.




Huh? My kid is at the top of the class at Gilman and that was my comment. Calvert Hall is not known for academics. The curriculum available for the top kids doesn’t match what is available to all kids at Gilman. I think Mcmullen is probably a great option if you can’t otherwise afford private school.


Poor, smart and a deep desire to become rich always trumps entitled parents.



Have you been to a Calvert Hall lacrosse game?
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 16:48     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.


And yet the median McMullen score would be solidly in the middle of the Gilman class.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 15:57     Subject: Re:admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Would like to hear thoughts on the rigor of the McMullen Scholars program at Calvert Hall compared to academic rigor at Gilman.
And also other (non-academic) opinions sought too -- culture, etc. I understand very different schools from a religious/non-religious standpoint (we are open to either). My DS loved his shadow day at both. Thanks for any input to help with this tough decision.


Academic rigor much higher at Gilman, it isn’t remotely close.


Serious question. How would you know if the rigor of two schools is actually comparable? Two different kids will take the same class and one will find it easy and one will find it hard.

If your kid is getting Bs at Gilman, it doesn't necessarily mean it's rigorous. There are families at ALL the schools who use this excuse for a mediocre report card.




Huh? My kid is at the top of the class at Gilman and that was my comment. Calvert Hall is not known for academics. The curriculum available for the top kids doesn’t match what is available to all kids at Gilman. I think Mcmullen is probably a great option if you can’t otherwise afford private school.


Poor, smart and a deep desire to become rich always trumps entitled parents.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 13:52     Subject: admissions 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf


While true, the way that you are presenting the information is misleading. The median McMullen SAT score is significantly higher than the median Gilman score.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 13:36     Subject: admissions 2025
McMullen is a great option if your kid will be happy at Calvert Hall. Are sports/band/theater/something else playing into the choice? congratulations!
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2025 12:02     Subject: admissions 2025
For the person who wanted hard numbers, I’ve attached the school profiles for both schools that are sent to colleges. Gilman students are required to take English and history in a coed environment and also are able to take other classes at BM and RPCS. Not all of these classes appear on the school profiles, but they are in the curriculum guide.

Note that the McMullen median SAT scores are within the middle 50 percent SAT range at Gilman. Also Gilman has the most National Merit Semifinalist of any Baltimore independent, by a lot.
Gilman https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1726662257/gilman/thzjgjllnf1cznl0ao9r/Gilman-School-Profile-2024-2025.pdf

Calvert Hall
https://calverthall.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/274/download/download_8895603.pdf