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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
DP

It means people who are LESS QUALIFIED for the job get a leg up.

If they were the best qualified, they wouldn’t need any preferential treatment.

This is false. They have to meet the basic qualifications regardless of their skin color or whatever else. More likely it's a case where, given 20 QUALIFIED applicants, the underrepresented QUALIFIED candidate might get picked in order to actually make the government's demographics look more like America's demographics rather than being completely dominated by white males. DEI does not make qualifications magically go away. Unqualified candidates get screened out long before that.

The narrative that highly qualified and vastly superior white men are being kicked to the curb in order to hire completely unqualified black lesbian dwarves with epilepsy and a missing leg is a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
DP

Every civil servant provides a service to their country, not just the military. And many in the military didn't actually even put their lives on the line, I know of a lot of people who were career military for 20 years and never saw combat. Why should the military get some special preference? Why not police officers, firefighters and others who put their lives on the line in service to their country?

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
DP

It means people who are LESS QUALIFIED for the job get a leg up.

If they were the best qualified, they wouldn’t need any preferential treatment.

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

Because there are a ton of prpgrams dedicated to workforce entry run by public universities and nonprofits as there should be. Just like there should be for minorities and women who have been locked out of so many opportunities for centuries.

But nothing is perfect - Pete Hegseth is a great example of the DEI hire of a basic, mediocre white dude with a history of behaving like an emotionally stunted frat bro.

MAGA is anti war. Why should warmongering soldiers get employment preference?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.

Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.

Is this why they AA jet went down? Because someone made a "sacrifice" and that's important than being a qualified for the job they do?

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Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.

This!!! MAGA doesn't understand DEI but the way they use it veterans status is a classification.

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

100% this.

Signed - career federal manager raised in a multigenerational military family

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

The only service that should merit reward is combat service. Otherwise it was just another job.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.

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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.

I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV

He isn't from WV. He's from Ohio.

The part of Ohio he’s from might as well be West Virginia.

LOL he grew up in a suburb between Cincinnati and Dayton. It's literally the most anodyne location in the country.

Republicans act like he grew up in a holler.

+1. His life story is the fakest most astroturfed thing I’ve ever seen. NY Times ran point on it too.

Middletown! So many people need to get better BS meters. It is embarrassing how people ate up the BS story.

Another intel asset created from thin air and foisted on us. See also Aoc and Obama.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Not arguing that. The point is that DEI is not a preference. Every racist talking point against DEI is based on ignorance and disinformation. The unqualified hires are the partisan cronies and good old boy network hires. Not one person in the Trump Administration is a merit hire.

Congress created a preference for veterans because they want to encourage veterans to use their training and experience in the civil service. Yet, most Republicans would still claim that a qualified Black veteran is never more deserving than an unqualified white non-veteran.

Most definitely. I told a story on another thread where my manager found the perfect candidate for the job at a career fair. But then a vet showed up who was not qualified. HR said they had to go with the vet, if anyone.

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.

Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.

Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.