Anonymous wrote:There were more than 10 at my kid's public HS. Fairfax county

10 accepted? Which FCPS high school? Why not name the school? TJ?

There were more than 10 at my kid's public HS. Fairfax county

Michigan alum with DC about to graduate from Michigan in May, and want to add my two cents:

1. Legacy is not considered as a factor in acceptances, but the legacy does help provide content to answer the "why Michigan" essay, and it does help with LOCI (see below).

2. Most of the EA acceptances are Michiganders. There are some OOS, but they defer/postpone most OOS to RA.

3. That said, Michigan used to have a round of acceptances between EA and RD that was mostly OOS. This happened to my DC, who was deferred to RA in January, but admitted in this round after submitting the LOCI (in which the motto, fight song, alma mater (not the same!) and Go Blue! were quoted). I think this was discontinued after my DC.

4. There is very little FA for OOS.

5. Many of the OOS students at Michigan are Jewish or Asian. This is the legacy of Michigan taking such students when the Ivies refuse(d) to take in more of them, despite being qualified to attend. These families tend to send their kids to the same feeder schools in NY, Chicago, etc. The Jewish families are very loyal to Michigan with their students and donations (Tisch, Ross), and now the Asians are starting to do the same (Mrs. Larry Ellison, a Chinese-American alumna, donated $ 10 million in NIL to get our next starting quarterback!).

That said, this entire process is a YMMV situation.

DC #1 had 1480 SAT, 11 APs, 3.9 GPA UW in FCPS HS and average ECs and was accepted by Michigan in RD but rejected by UVA.

Three years later, DC #2 had 1500 SAT, 12 APs, 3.9 GPA UW in same FCPS HS and average ECs and was accepted by UVA in EA but rejected by Michigan (deferred, then WL).

Glad we're done with this.

Anonymous wrote:High school may be one factor in the yield algorithm. There may be more.

While UMich does give need-based aid to low income students, they are nonetheless need-aware OOS. One might wonder whether not just full pay, but wealthy, families have an increased likelihood - this is wild speculation - anyone know whether that's the case?

UMich may emphasize Pell recipients in accepting students, for its US News data, and may then have to balance that out with full pay on the other end. Unclear whether they are looking for potential big donors like the schools in the lawsuit discussed in the other thread.

U Mich has 18% Pell.

High school may be one factor in the yield algorithm. There may be more.

While UMich does give need-based aid to low income students, they are nonetheless need-aware OOS. One might wonder whether not just full pay, but wealthy, families have an increased likelihood - this is wild speculation - anyone know whether that's the case?

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of admits from NY and Chicago private high schools....strong feeders.

Sometimes 20% of the private school class.

Agreed. 4 kids in from one nyc priv alone

I think our local private went 0-40.

lots of us outside DC on here.
michigan has known feeder schools in both new york and chicago (i mean they have admitted students' days JUST for Chicago high school kids in Ann Arbor!!)

I have relatives at several privates in both cities. at one (Chicago), reportedly 15-16 kids got in (class size is under 100). at one in NYC, reportedly 12 got in. and yes, we are all texting non-stop about this.

Those schools probably have a good track record of actually attending UMich. Michigan is in that tier of schools that is tired of being dumped by anybody who gets a wink from East Coast privates, so if your school's accepted students tend to do that, you can expect to have a harder time being acccepted there.

this is 100% true.
If your kids (or others at their school) are using U-Mich as a backup, they know and won't get in. Aside: this is why your school's data is more important than anything else anyone EVER says here.

I have heard they like the early applications (not submitted on Oct 31) and on-campus visits and truly personalized essays - it's why they give you so much room to write an essay.
It should be a love letter to Michigan (not a list of classes and professors etc).

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of admits from NY and Chicago private high schools....strong feeders.

Sometimes 20% of the private school class.

Agreed. 4 kids in from one nyc priv alone

I think our local private went 0-40.

lots of us outside DC on here.
michigan has known feeder schools in both new york and chicago (i mean they have admitted students' days JUST for Chicago high school kids in Ann Arbor!!)

I have relatives at several privates in both cities. at one (Chicago), reportedly 15-16 kids got in (class size is under 100). at one in NYC, reportedly 12 got in. and yes, we are all texting non-stop about this.

Those schools probably have a good track record of actually attending UMich. Michigan is in that tier of schools that is tired of being dumped by anybody who gets a wink from East Coast privates, so if your school's accepted students tend to do that, you can expect to have a harder time being acccepted there.

I’m just bumping this thread as this is the one from this year. The other one started in Jan 2024!

Accepted engineering 4.0 UW 1320 SAT (630 math 690 verbal) but fantastic extracurriculars including novel biomedical research

Accidentally posted on an old thread. Posting here to bump. Accepted engineering fcps 4.0 UW, 1550, well rounded extracurriculars.

My Asian kid got in to Engineering and we’re thrilled! 1600 SAT, 4.0 unweighted, 5.0 weighted (gym will bring that down soon), Maryland public school. Strong and somewhat unusual ECs with leadership. Excellent community service. Some state level awards. Strong Michigan connection that surely helped. Wishing all those deferred all the best!

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of admits from NY and Chicago private high schools....strong feeders.

Sometimes 20% of the private school class.

A PP...a few months ago, I tossed a brochure with 2021 matriculated data by geography because it was too old to share in detail. Haven't been able to find new data to match. However, it definitely looked like Chicago and the NYC Metro Area are bigger areas for student recruitment than DMV.

There was some official data analyzed by the Michigan Daily a few years back that showed that the NYC public science h.s. magnets are also feeders to Michigan.

I wonder what kind of visits/college fairs Michigan participates in. Perhaps it helps a lot to meet AOs when they are in-region.

My son is in-state. He went to an AO presentation at his school, two webinars, and a campus tour. I believe that any participation or info request checkmark will do for demonstrated interest (they don't need you to come to campus because that can get unfairly costly). However, I wonder if timing of checkmarks or multiple checkmarks helps.

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/academics/we-looked-301-high-schools-most-applicants-u-m-heres-what-we-found/

When I went to Michigan decades ago, there was a very strong contigent from both Stuyvesant and Bronx Science.

Anonymous wrote:How is it possible that 99% of the stats for kids on this thread have a 4.0UW? Seriously? Do high schools just hand out all As these days? Not a single A- or B+? What BS.

Yup. And this is why we need standardized testing back. Because all 4.0s are not the same

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Anonymous wrote:She’ll get excited about another school. She has 2 other good options so it’s fine but MI was a family thing and she’s been wanting to go there forever. Oh well, we knew it was a reach.

Sorry. Let us k at your schools previous applicants and see what stats are there for kids who were deferred. May have a better chance than you think.

Your school’s history on this will give you more information than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of admits from NY and Chicago private high schools....strong feeders.

Sometimes 20% of the private school class.

A PP...a few months ago, I tossed a brochure with 2021 matriculated data by geography because it was too old to share in detail. Haven't been able to find new data to match. However, it definitely looked like Chicago and the NYC Metro Area are bigger areas for student recruitment than DMV.

There was some official data analyzed by the Michigan Daily a few years back that showed that the NYC public science h.s. magnets are also feeders to Michigan.

I wonder what kind of visits/college fairs Michigan participates in. Perhaps it helps a lot to meet AOs when they are in-region.

My son is in-state. He went to an AO presentation at his school, two webinars, and a campus tour. I believe that any participation or info request checkmark will do for demonstrated interest (they don't need you to come to campus because that can get unfairly costly). However, I wonder if timing of checkmarks or multiple checkmarks helps.

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/academics/we-looked-301-high-schools-most-applicants-u-m-heres-what-we-found/