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Post 02/06/2025 23:53     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
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Anonymous wrote:Email from POPA says examiners are safe to continue work from home.

But supervisors are screwed?


Supervisors and anyone non-bargaining, like OGC, OCFO, etc.

Yes, we're screwed.

And we take zero appropriated funds. So you're saving exactly nothing by doing this and if/when people leave.


+1 Most Americans don't know that USPTO is fully funded by fees for patents and trademarks. No tax dollars, at all.

This is going to have a disastrous impact on American IP even if it's non-bargaining employees required to RTO. It's hard enough to recruit talent leaders in any position. Think about IT and cybersecurity positions.


Pretty sure Leon plans to RIF most feds anyway and replace them with AI. PTO examiners who stare at computers all day reviewing seem like a prime target for AI replacement.



That would be a hell of an AI system


I wonder what sort of nonsense an AI examiner would hallucinate? As a patent practitioner, at least I might find it amusing appealing something like that.


We've received responses from attorneys that must have been made using AI. It makes up case law.


I worked at the PTO as a trademark examiner over 15 years ago. We had to learn keyboard codes connected to different sentences and paragraphs that would write the letters. We were not allowed to draft the letters ourselves.


That's definitely not the case today and I doubt it was 15 year years ago.


Ok, well, it was true in the 2005-2007 range. We had a big binder and computer file of paragraphs we could use and there were codes you could type in that would input the paragraphs, phrases, or sentences in the letter.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 23:46     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Is it true that the Commissioner of Patents has forked?


I heard they were coming for her anyway because she’s a well-known advocate for diversity.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 23:29     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Is it true that the Commissioner of Patents has forked?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 23:28     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
I expect that many SPEs qualify for VERA, making the Fork especially attractive.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 20:52     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
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Anonymous wrote:With current technology, the process at the USPTO may become much faster and more efficient—you never know.

Just keep in mind that no one is irreplaceable; any job can potentially be taken over by someone else



Very difficult. Quality SPEs and Primaries are small. Takes many years to rise the ranks before one of those get replaced.


Yes, the training process takes time and then getting to the level where you can train others takes more time. Being cavalier about losing SPEs is crazy.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 20:13     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:With current technology, the process at the USPTO may become much faster and more efficient—you never know.

Just keep in mind that no one is irreplaceable; any job can potentially be taken over by someone else



Very difficult. Quality SPEs and Primaries are small. Takes many years to rise the ranks before one of those get replaced.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 20:02     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:With current technology, the process at the USPTO may become much faster and more efficient—you never know.

Just keep in mind that no one is irreplaceable; any job can potentially be taken over by someone else

No one asked you, troll.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 20:02     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
With current technology, the process at the USPTO may become much faster and more efficient—you never know.

Just keep in mind that no one is irreplaceable; any job can potentially be taken over by someone else
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 19:59     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Udupa resigned
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 19:37     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:How's the cafeteria in Alexandria doing? That was always a nice place, prior to the pandemic.


Definitely not what it was. That cream of mushroom soup they used to have was the best.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 19:36     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
I heard they switched vendors so not so tasty anymore
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 19:35     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
How's the cafeteria in Alexandria doing? That was always a nice place, prior to the pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2025 19:13     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Place taking a dive in quality. lose many quality SPEs and primaries. No benefit in being a SPE if you have to report to office. Who wants to sit in traffic unless you live walking distance to the Alexandria campus?

SPEs can not demote back to examining.

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 21:37     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Email from POPA says examiners are safe to continue work from home.

But supervisors are screwed?


Supervisors and anyone non-bargaining, like OGC, OCFO, etc.

Yes, we're screwed.

And we take zero appropriated funds. So you're saving exactly nothing by doing this and if/when people leave.


+1 Most Americans don't know that USPTO is fully funded by fees for patents and trademarks. No tax dollars, at all.

This is going to have a disastrous impact on American IP even if it's non-bargaining employees required to RTO. It's hard enough to recruit talent leaders in any position. Think about IT and cybersecurity positions.


Pretty sure Leon plans to RIF most feds anyway and replace them with AI. PTO examiners who stare at computers all day reviewing seem like a prime target for AI replacement.



That would be a hell of an AI system


I wonder what sort of nonsense an AI examiner would hallucinate? As a patent practitioner, at least I might find it amusing appealing something like that.


We've received responses from attorneys that must have been made using AI. It makes up case law.


I worked at the PTO as a trademark examiner over 15 years ago. We had to learn keyboard codes connected to different sentences and paragraphs that would write the letters. We were not allowed to draft the letters ourselves.


That's definitely not the case today and I doubt it was 15 year years ago.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 21:33     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
The USPTO does not take federal funds. It is self funded. All this chaos over the past two weeks has severely hindered the productivity in getting applications reviewed.