Anonymous
03/25/2025 19:32
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Speaking of NCSAs, why doesn't NCAP West go to NCSA Age Group? They are arguably the strongest site.
They are there listed under Freedom Center and the Warf. Their top performing 13-14s go to Shamrock though, and some of the 12Us choose to go to Eastern Zones instead.
Anonymous
03/25/2025 18:18
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Speaking of NCSAs, why doesn't NCAP West go to NCSA Age Group? They are arguably the strongest site.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 21:19
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NCap is all about points for NCap not what meet might be a good experience for their swimmers
Good experience? What are you talking about? If you want a good experience take a vacation.
You’re incredulous that someone hopes a swim meet is a good experience for their youth athlete? Yikes. What are you hoping for in a swim meet?
You can win and have a good experience. Both can and should be true or we’ve really llst sight.
DP, the older kids NCSA really is a business-like trip. It’s not meant to be combo vacation. The swimmers are generally 15+ and have D1 aspirations, so no it’s not just for the swimmers to go and have a good time.
I completely understand that. I think we’re using different definitions of “good experience” is all. I wrote this reply and have an aspiring D1 swimmer. I want a high stakes meet to be a positive experience, not a vacation. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 20:48
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NCap is all about points for NCap not what meet might be a good experience for their swimmers
Good experience? What are you talking about? If you want a good experience take a vacation.
You’re incredulous that someone hopes a swim meet is a good experience for their youth athlete? Yikes. What are you hoping for in a swim meet?
You can win and have a good experience. Both can and should be true or we’ve really llst sight.
DP, the older kids NCSA really is a business-like trip. It’s not meant to be combo vacation. The swimmers are generally 15+ and have D1 aspirations, so no it’s not just for the swimmers to go and have a good time.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 19:56
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NCap is all about points for NCap not what meet might be a good experience for their swimmers
Good experience? What are you talking about? If you want a good experience take a vacation.
You’re incredulous that someone hopes a swim meet is a good experience for their youth athlete? Yikes. What are you hoping for in a swim meet?
You can win and have a good experience. Both can and should be true or we’ve really llst sight.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 19:23
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:NCap is all about points for NCap not what meet might be a good experience for their swimmers
Good experience? What are you talking about? If you want a good experience take a vacation.
Anonymous
03/24/2025 16:29
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:NCap is all about points for NCap not what meet might be a good experience for their swimmers
Does winning offend you? Get back in your rubber room.
Anonymous
03/23/2025 21:51
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of NCAP-P kids at NCSAs. Are they doing a different meet?
Last year they did the Shamrock Showdown, which seems like an odd Ichoice but whatever.
Pretty much all on NCAP does this in place of Sectionals.
Yup, a lot of the sectionals qualifiers that do not have NCSA cuts go to Shamrock Showdown. Which is a weird choice since the cuts for Shamrock are pretty slow, but maybe it’s because it pretty much guarantees that the fast NCAP swimmers will make finals.
This is exactly why
Have you actually looked at who is at this meet? There are many fast teams there .
I just looked at the finals times from last year and the meet is just not that fast. It’s fair to say that the NCAP swimmers with sectional cuts, particularly the 13-14 year olds, are highly likely to make finals. There are NCAP 12 year olds who would final in the 13-14 events based on last year’s finals times.
It’s funny you say that shamrock isn’t fast on a thread comparing it to sectionals when in 6 out of the 8 events on the first day of prelims what it took to make it back was faster at shamrock than sectionals (girls 400 IM was TEN seconds faster)
I highlighted the 13-14s, but in looking at some of the 15 and over events it appears Shamrock is faster, which may be a function of the fast clubs/swimmers opting out of EZ sectionals.
Anonymous
03/23/2025 21:34
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of NCAP-P kids at NCSAs. Are they doing a different meet?
Last year they did the Shamrock Showdown, which seems like an odd Ichoice but whatever.
Pretty much all on NCAP does this in place of Sectionals.
Yup, a lot of the sectionals qualifiers that do not have NCSA cuts go to Shamrock Showdown. Which is a weird choice since the cuts for Shamrock are pretty slow, but maybe it’s because it pretty much guarantees that the fast NCAP swimmers will make finals.
This is exactly why
Have you actually looked at who is at this meet? There are many fast teams there .
I just looked at the finals times from last year and the meet is just not that fast. It’s fair to say that the NCAP swimmers with sectional cuts, particularly the 13-14 year olds, are highly likely to make finals. There are NCAP 12 year olds who would final in the 13-14 events based on last year’s finals times.
It’s funny you say that shamrock isn’t fast on a thread comparing it to sectionals when in 6 out of the 8 events on the first day of prelims what it took to make it back was faster at shamrock than sectionals (girls 400 IM was TEN seconds faster)
Anonymous
03/23/2025 16:34
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of NCAP-P kids at NCSAs. Are they doing a different meet?
Last year they did the Shamrock Showdown, which seems like an odd Ichoice but whatever.
Pretty much all on NCAP does this in place of Sectionals.
Yup, a lot of the sectionals qualifiers that do not have NCSA cuts go to Shamrock Showdown. Which is a weird choice since the cuts for Shamrock are pretty slow, but maybe it’s because it pretty much guarantees that the fast NCAP swimmers will make finals.
This is exactly why
Have you actually looked at who is at this meet? There are many fast teams there .
I just looked at the finals times from last year and the meet is just not that fast. It’s fair to say that the NCAP swimmers with sectional cuts, particularly the 13-14 year olds, are highly likely to make finals. There are NCAP 12 year olds who would final in the 13-14 events based on last year’s finals times.
Anonymous
03/23/2025 16:31
Subject: NCAP Prep swimmers to skip Metros for Altitude Camp
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only a handful of NCAP-P kids at NCSAs. Are they doing a different meet?
Last year they did the Shamrock Showdown, which seems like an odd choice but whatever.
Pretty much all on NCAP does this in place of Sectionals.
Prep won’t let their swimmers go to NCSAs unless they can final.
Age group NCSAs? I know a lot of NCAP kids who won’t final there.
No, the older kids NCSA that was this week.