Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 12:12     Subject: Oh California

Why is Newsom asking Trump to tour fire damage while the fires are still raging? Why isn't Newsom inviting President Biden, or perhaps prominent leaders of the House (which controls the purse strings)?

The cynical part of me thinks it's to get a photo of Trump in front of the fire damage so that Newsom can use it politically to avoid further blame directed at him.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 12:02     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think California is screwed.

Born and raised is the shithole of Lancaster and I am sure climate change has some role - and politicians too.

Like 1% climate; 99% politicians.


It’s politicians’ job to cope with climate change and to protect the population as best they can. You can’t just work to prevent it in the future, cutting emissions etc - you have to mitigate today.


Democrats are hellbent on “fighting climate change” versus adapting to it.

Only those that adapt to change survive.


You should be shouting that is Texas and Florida.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 12:01     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.


The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.


January is the rainy season. This is not normal or else January wouldn’t have been known as the “rainy season”.


According to the Los Angles Almanac for Pasadena: since 2000 rainfall in January has been below the seasonal average by as much as 12%.

Yep. That’s why democrats have been pushing policies to address climate change.


Not firing firefighters because they refused an experimental gene therapy; not cutting their budget and then spending millions on illegal aliens would also help address the risk of damage from wildfires.


Please go away with your made up GOP fairy story BS.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 12:00     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in California. There have always been fire stops, mandatory clearing of brush around rural properties, and the reservoirs were full for the last several years due to above average rainfall. But Conservatives don’t like to hear that.


Careful. There will be a full public accounting of whether the reservoirs were full and whether brush was cleared in the wooded areas. If you want to make bold statements like "the reservoirs were full" when even California officials are saying otherwise, it's going to look bad. The left cannot just create reality. No one is going along with it anymore.


Shut up MAGAT
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:59     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.


The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.


We’ve never had a wind storm like that, at least in my memory. I’ve lived here since 2006.


Despite what you’ve been told, the earth has been around longer than your memory.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:59     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think California is screwed.

Born and raised is the shithole of Lancaster and I am sure climate change has some role - and politicians too.

Like 1% climate; 99% politicians.


It’s politicians’ job to cope with climate change and to protect the population as best they can. You can’t just work to prevent it in the future, cutting emissions etc - you have to mitigate today.


Democrats are hellbent on “fighting climate change” versus adapting to it.

Only those that adapt to change survive.


The first stage is to acknowledge the problem. The GOP deny it. You can't adapt to something you don't even acknowledge.

And of course part of dealing with climate change is to adapt things to the new reality. But again with the acknowledging part...
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:56     Subject: Re:Oh California

Anonymous wrote:SoCal Native here:

One massive issue brought up by the chief is that the number of firefighters has not increased in decades, but the incident calls have gone up by 50%. However, it’s long been known that the LA FD union strongly gate keeps who can become a firefighter. Even when I was growing up and still to this day, it’s widely known that you need to have a nepotism connection to get into the firefighting Academy. They also gatekeeper who can get into the training programs like EMT or volunteer search and rescue for your local community, that’s a precursor to getting into the firefighting Academy. The union likes the labor shortage because it means virtually unlimited overtime dollars. So I take heed with these complaints, has been strongly acting like a cartel in terms of its labor. Another issue is that looks like it. It’s heavily white and many of firefighters don’t even live in the state of California. Fly in from places like Idaho and Nevada to do their shifts and then they leave with their paychecks. If you’re familiar with the show, southern charm of the characters, husband is a California firefighter who lives in South Carolina! He flies in every other week to do his shifts up in Sacramento and then flies home. This is the root of the labor issue with the Los Angeles fire department and other fire departments in California.


And you wonder why people aren’t big fans of unions.

- they stop the hiring of firefighters
- allow corruption in police departments
- kept schools closed for a year longer than needed.

Public unions are a scourge.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:51     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think California is screwed.

Born and raised is the shithole of Lancaster and I am sure climate change has some role - and politicians too.

Like 1% climate; 99% politicians.


It’s politicians’ job to cope with climate change and to protect the population as best they can. You can’t just work to prevent it in the future, cutting emissions etc - you have to mitigate today.


Democrats are hellbent on “fighting climate change” versus adapting to it.

Only those that adapt to change survive.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:23     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Something that is not being discussed is this mess will create millions upon millions in property tax loss to LA County. All those burned houses will now not be able to be taxed for what the houses were worth pre fire -a house that was millions of dollars is not worth a lot when it is burned to ground. Will take years to get permits and rebuild. This fire is going to hurt people not even initially affected because this loss will affect all sorts of programs with funding. California is notoriously difficult with building permits. There will be zero appetite to pay more taxes to make up for this and progressives will continue to be blamed. Hoping there are lessons learned but have yet to hear any Democrats agree that you have to prioritize people over little fish. You have to allow fire stops and brush clearing. There has to be a way to have balance. Also all those fire fighters fired for. it taking Covid Vax need to be hired back asap. Also need to allow help with trucks to go directly to fighting fires and not have to do emissions testing first. Wishing the best for California!!!



CA and LA a case study in when you go woke you truly go broke.


You clearly do not understand the definition of woke.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:22     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.


The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.


It is arson.

I have several old friends who live in LA and have had to evacuate. They all saw people with blowtorches walking around. One has Ring footage on the cloud of a guy torching her house. It’s not just the dude who got let off by the mayor.


I have a friend of a friend who saw Elvis starting the fires.

Tesla probably started. Start a lot of misinformation from MAGA to support your leaders.


SoCal native here:
Two of the fires are being investigated as arson and they have brought in a ton of Feds on these cases. A family member of mine is with LAPD and they are involved in working the cases.

My guess is that they will announce something in next few days once they get more concrete evidence in hand.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:15     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:the fire has nothing to do with bureaucracy and everything to do with climate change. Less than a half inch of rain since last spring and other variables from there.

Oh and the whole lie about Mayor Bass cutting LA FD budget? Fake news. It was increased by $50m under her leadership.


They should have done controlled burns and filled the reservoir after two year of history rain in 23-24. Instead they were incompetent and drunk on good vibes.


Reservoirs were full


Just one example from LA Times: “The Santa Ynez Reservoir was out of use and closed for repairs to its cover, leaving a 117-million-gallon water storage complex empty in the heart of the Palisades, my colleague Matt Hamilton reports.

The large reservoir, had it been operable, could have helped with extending water pressure in the Palisades on Tuesday night, but only for a time, a former DWP general manager told Hamilton.”


“You still would have ended up with serious drops in pressure,” Adams said in an interview Thursday. “Would Santa Ynez [Reservoir] have helped? Yes, to some extent. Would it have saved the day? I don’t think so.”
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:15     Subject: Oh California

They voted for this. They get what they get.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:12     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.


The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.


It is arson.

I have several old friends who live in LA and have had to evacuate. They all saw people with blowtorches walking around. One has Ring footage on the cloud of a guy torching her house. It’s not just the dude who got let off by the mayor.


I have a friend of a friend who saw Elvis starting the fires.

Tesla probably started. Start a lot of misinformation from MAGA to support your leaders.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:10     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing that folks are looking for someone to blame when Wind is the biggest contributor to the fires spreading.

There are somewhat above some things to be learned for sure and some issues that if not present would have helped. But overall mych of What will come out of this will be things that cost money.

Much attention is being paid to the 17M cut from the fire department budget but most folks haven’t asked why? What other cuts were made or other things allocated funds?
California has great fire related building codes. Should they have made every building built before said codes be retrofitted or knocked down and rebuilt? Should the prioritize fire emergency over earthquake preparedness or police and public safety?

And while folks are talking about the impact and pointing fingers, they may want to remember how important Cali is to the US economy.


I'm not MAGA, and I'm not pointing fingers. I do believe the fire chief. Do you? (I doubt she's a Republican)


The cuts made no difference to the outcome one of this fire. Especially if it’s true arsonists are starting fires.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2025 11:00     Subject: Oh California

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.


The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.


January is the rainy season. This is not normal or else January wouldn’t have been known as the “rainy season”.


According to the Los Angles Almanac for Pasadena: since 2000 rainfall in January has been below the seasonal average by as much as 12%.

Yep. That’s why democrats have been pushing policies to address climate change.


Not firing firefighters because they refused an experimental gene therapy; not cutting their budget and then spending millions on illegal aliens would also help address the risk of damage from wildfires.