Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.parkcitymountain.com/plan-your-trip/lift-access/tickets.aspx
1-day lift tickets are $328/adult, $213/child up to age 12.
So for our family of 4, it would be $1,082/day for just the lift tickets.
Remember that next tiem people complain about Disney World being expensive!
We used to ski in VT for $15-$30 per day. The prices now are criminal.
Criminal? It’s a leisure activity. We are talking about eggs and milk here. The prices are, by definition, what the market will bear. If not, there wouldn’t be demand for skiing. Skiing (or vacationing in general) is not an entitlement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
And you rent equipment for the season.
You ski mid week. You ski 1/2 days. You ski at night.
There are many ways of making it economical. You’re just complaining about a luxury experience being too expensive.
🙄
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
And you rent equipment for the season.
You ski mid week. You ski 1/2 days. You ski at night.
There are many ways of making it economical. You’re just complaining about a luxury experience being too expensive.
🙄
1/2 and evening lift tickets save almost nothing. And skiing midweek doesn’t factor in the cost of the day off work/school. Liberty is $150 per person per day not counting food and gas.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
And you rent equipment for the season.
You ski mid week. You ski 1/2 days. You ski at night.
There are many ways of making it economical. You’re just complaining about a luxury experience being too expensive.
🙄
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.parkcitymountain.com/plan-your-trip/lift-access/tickets.aspx
1-day lift tickets are $328/adult, $213/child up to age 12.
So for our family of 4, it would be $1,082/day for just the lift tickets.
Remember that next tiem people complain about Disney World being expensive!
We used to ski in VT for $15-$30 per day. The prices now are criminal.
What year? Decades ago in 1985?
Maintaining a ski resort (equipment and staff) are expensive and it's a relatively short season to boot. The cost is passed on to the consumer. This isn't a novel idea.
And now PC is dealing with a worker strike for increased wages...so be prepared to pay more to offset staff wages.
And have you ever purchased a high speed quad (chair lift)? Or a snow gun? Or pay the lease for a mtn in a national forest?
And these costs don't even include expansion projects which most ski resorts aim for to entice investors or appeal to customers,
The increase in the price of lift tickets have has far far outpaced inflation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
You just ooze privilege and lack of perspective
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Day trips to local mountains, rented equipment locally and no at the mountain. It's not the same experience driving to liberty for the day as it is flying to Utah, but it's economical skiing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
There really aren’t ways to “make it economical.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Again, you aren’t entitled to a cheap day on the slopes. If skiing was important to you, you’d move closer.
It’s like complaining they charge too much for private Caribbean sailboat charters. Or too much to climb mt Everest. Or helicopter skiing is now out of reach.
The world is full of exclusive activities. Skiing is now one of them if you want the best of the best. If you love to ski you’d move to a location with skiing and you’d get in state discounts. Or you’d buy the epic m/icon pass. There are many ways to make it economical. But you’re complaining about the elite version
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Starting wages were raised to $21 per hour in 2022, but rising costs equate to what should be a $23 starting wage today. Neighboring resort, Deer Valley, recently raised their starting wage to $23.50 and Powder Mountain-another Utah ski resort-starts ski patrollers at $26 an hour.
A one day lift ticket tomorrow is $328
Three years ago it was $219 for a one day lift ticket. So the ski patrol gets no raise but look how much lift tickets have increased!!
Ten years ago a one day ticket to Aspen was 120. And that felt expensive. Lift tickets have increased exponentially as private equity has taken over ski mountains. We are fairly affluent and skiing has become outrageously expensive for us
It’s like a round of golf. If you want cheap, go to a local par 3 city owned course for $50. If you want the best conditions, amazing views and a vacation experience, go to Pinehurst for $400.
All day experiences run about $300-400. No one is entitled to these. And if you want to do it, pay up.
That all being said, yes the ski patrol deserves more.
Far be it from me to defend golf, but there are not easily accessible municipal ski resorts like there are golf courses. There may be some literal trash hills in the Midwest where you can snag a midweek $60 lift ticket but unless you're in the lower Midwest you then still have to pay for lodging. It's certainly less expensive, and you can do off peak days at Snowshoe for $85, but it's definitely surged so that people who may previously have been able to save up for a Vail no longer can.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.parkcitymountain.com/plan-your-trip/lift-access/tickets.aspx
1-day lift tickets are $328/adult, $213/child up to age 12.
So for our family of 4, it would be $1,082/day for just the lift tickets.
Remember that next tiem people complain about Disney World being expensive!
We used to ski in VT for $15-$30 per day. The prices now are criminal.
What year? Decades ago in 1985?
Maintaining a ski resort (equipment and staff) are expensive and it's a relatively short season to boot. The cost is passed on to the consumer. This isn't a novel idea.
And now PC is dealing with a worker strike for increased wages...so be prepared to pay more to offset staff wages.
And have you ever purchased a high speed quad (chair lift)? Or a snow gun? Or pay the lease for a mtn in a national forest?
And these costs don't even include expansion projects which most ski resorts aim for to entice investors or appeal to customers,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.parkcitymountain.com/plan-your-trip/lift-access/tickets.aspx
1-day lift tickets are $328/adult, $213/child up to age 12.
So for our family of 4, it would be $1,082/day for just the lift tickets.
Remember that next tiem people complain about Disney World being expensive!
We used to ski in VT for $15-$30 per day. The prices now are criminal.
What year? Decades ago in 1985?
Maintaining a ski resort (equipment and staff) are expensive and it's a relatively short season to boot. The cost is passed on to the consumer. This isn't a novel idea.
And now PC is dealing with a worker strike for increased wages...so be prepared to pay more to offset staff wages.
And have you ever purchased a high speed quad (chair lift)? Or a snow gun? Or pay the lease for a mtn in a national forest?
And these costs don't even include expansion projects which most ski resorts aim for to entice investors or appeal to customers,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.parkcitymountain.com/plan-your-trip/lift-access/tickets.aspx
1-day lift tickets are $328/adult, $213/child up to age 12.
So for our family of 4, it would be $1,082/day for just the lift tickets.
Remember that next tiem people complain about Disney World being expensive!
We used to ski in VT for $15-$30 per day. The prices now are criminal.