He's just weird.

I think the shine will come of Vance quickly but it's normal for the winning ticket to get a victory lap after a win. Back when it was not clear Trump would win, and after Vance had a series of negative stories in the press just as the Harris-Walz ticket was on the rise, people were gearing up to blame Vance for a loss (including Trump). But they won and that makes everyone forgiving.

I agree he's smarmy and has very few consistent views. He molded himself into a Trump acolyte and was rewarded with the VP role. But VPs rarely become president. HW Bush managed it but Reagan was an enormously popular president with broad appeal -- Trump won a narrow victory in a deeply divided country where incumbents get punished every cycle. Nixon did it but a decade after he served as VP and in the midst of the Vietnam wore and a cultural upheaval -- Trump already pulled that rabbit out of the hat. LBJ became president after the assassination of an enormously popular president and road patriotic support to re-election. Vance is unlikely to have any of those favorable situations and on top of that he's not a very talented politician.

I think he will soon disappear from public view. I might wind up governor of Ohio one day but I wouldn't bet on anything higher than that. I could even see him just returning to the Senate and staying there the rest of his career.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, Have you watched Vance in any long form interviews?

Check out his you tube with Theo Von. You may not like his politics, but he communicates in a way that is down to earth while still sounding intelligent and knowledgeable about topics.

The most liked comment on the Vance-Theo Von podcast is something like “this is the most normal sounding political guy ever. Dems say he is weird?”

Obviously his message is better received by Vons young male audience than OP who is most likely an UMC / coastal elite middle-aged woman.

But it illustrates the fact that people think the mainstream news is lying to them. Vance is very clearly intelligent and an excellent communicator, even if you hate his political positions.

Link to interview

https://youtu.be/vd8mmTDDqAs?si=IOQ3LYn3_8y9i9cu

Thanks for this link. I am starting to watch it.

Dems need to find guys. They need to be able to find guys who can talk football, throw around F-bombs without fear of being canceled. Sound like it's a guy you would talk to over a football game.

I am seeing why young men voted for Trump/Vance.

Dems can't let that demographic go away.

We already found plenty of such men; what are you even talking about?

What about Tim Walz for one.

Anonymous wrote:I think this is just different strokes.... I find Vance very likeable and I find Buttigieg to be a smarmy phony. Yet all I read here is how wonderful he is.

That’s because you are indoctrinated in culture war BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from where he’s from and totally understood his book. It was 100% accurate. I liked him after that — he’s obviously very smart. But once he lost the courage in his convictions, he lost me. But I don’t hate him. When you compare him to other young Republicans, ie Gaetz, I’ll take Vance.

This. Which Vance is the real Vance, the one who wrote his book or the one today? Who knows? I don't.

People can add to their foundational upbringing without losing who they are. This should not have to be explained to a rational adult.

+ 1 million

LOL, he was a hillbilly to sell a manuscript, and he was a hillbilly hater to sell a felon he once called "America's Hitler."

Who in their right mind is naive enough to think he actually wrote that book? It’s full of fake bullshit.

Of course he wrote it. Whether you liked the book or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from where he’s from and totally understood his book. It was 100% accurate. I liked him after that — he’s obviously very smart. But once he lost the courage in his convictions, he lost me. But I don’t hate him. When you compare him to other young Republicans, ie Gaetz, I’ll take Vance.

This. Which Vance is the real Vance, the one who wrote his book or the one today? Who knows? I don't.

People can add to their foundational upbringing without losing who they are. This should not have to be explained to a rational adult.

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LOL, he was a hillbilly to sell a manuscript, and he was a hillbilly hater to sell a felon he once called "America's Hitler."

Who in their right mind is naive enough to think he actually wrote that book? It’s full of fake bullshit.

Like I said, he’s gross. Not a genuine honest bone in his body.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us aren't going to look past how many times he's changed his positions, including having called Trump "Hitler" - he comes across as more of an opportunist and a grifter than an actual leader.

I'd never vote for Vance.

That was Kamala, hun.

... That was Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:I think its because he's literally been MIA since the election. People, as whole, have the attention spans of gnats. Trump and Elon are running a clown show and JD is just lurking in the background somewhere.

He’s not MIA. He’s a Senator. He’s attending hearings.

Funny you had to point that out to the PP. The revelation that he's still working his day job until J20 must be astounding to some of these people.

He's not working his day job, he's parading a child sex trafficker around the Senate. Read the news.

Cope and seethe.

Dp. You would like us to seethe but nope. Gleefull that things are not going to go well and sitting back watching it all happen. So many child molesters

Anonymous wrote:You're stuck in your suburban neighborhood OP. Democrats loathe him. No one has forgotten his " childless cat lady" comments nor his discrimination of Haitians and his retelling falsehoods about immigrants in Springfield eating dogs + cats. Are you one of the Americans of the 54+% that Gallup reports as having under a 6th grade literacy rate? Seems so.

I hope Vance is getting a kickback from Hallmark and Etsy for cranking out all the "childless at lady" crap that nieces and nephews will be give their aunts for the holidays. It's become part of the American lexicon.

Anonymous wrote:His public speaking is far more intelligible than that of t-rump.

Plus, his wife is BIPOC.

I thought his wife was indian but not the right kind of indian.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, Have you watched Vance in any long form interviews?

Check out his you tube with Theo Von. You may not like his politics, but he communicates in a way that is down to earth while still sounding intelligent and knowledgeable about topics.

The most liked comment on the Vance-Theo Von podcast is something like “this is the most normal sounding political guy ever. Dems say he is weird?”

Obviously his message is better received by Vons young male audience than OP who is most likely an UMC / coastal elite middle-aged woman.

But it illustrates the fact that people think the mainstream news is lying to them. Vance is very clearly intelligent and an excellent communicator, even if you hate his political positions.

Link to interview

https://youtu.be/vd8mmTDDqAs?si=IOQ3LYn3_8y9i9cu

Thanks for this link. I am starting to watch it.

Dems need to find guys. They need to be able to find guys who can talk football, throw around F-bombs without fear of being canceled. Sound like it's a guy you would talk to over a football game.

I am seeing why young men voted for Trump/Vance.

Dems can't let that demographic go away.

Walz was literally a football coach and artillery sergeant but instead the right wing chose a pudgy pasty guy who wears eyeliner 🤷‍♂️

Yep, keep going with this denile.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, Have you watched Vance in any long form interviews?

Check out his you tube with Theo Von. You may not like his politics, but he communicates in a way that is down to earth while still sounding intelligent and knowledgeable about topics.

The most liked comment on the Vance-Theo Von podcast is something like “this is the most normal sounding political guy ever. Dems say he is weird?”

Obviously his message is better received by Vons young male audience than OP who is most likely an UMC / coastal elite middle-aged woman.

But it illustrates the fact that people think the mainstream news is lying to them. Vance is very clearly intelligent and an excellent communicator, even if you hate his political positions.

Link to interview

https://youtu.be/vd8mmTDDqAs?si=IOQ3LYn3_8y9i9cu

Thanks for this link. I am starting to watch it.

Dems need to find guys. They need to be able to find guys who can talk football, throw around F-bombs without fear of being canceled. Sound like it's a guy you would talk to over a football game.

I am seeing why young men voted for Trump/Vance.

Dems can't let that demographic go away.

Walz was literally a football coach and artillery sergeant but instead the right wing chose a pudgy pasty guy who wears eyeliner 🤷‍♂️

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, Have you watched Vance in any long form interviews?

Check out his you tube with Theo Von. You may not like his politics, but he communicates in a way that is down to earth while still sounding intelligent and knowledgeable about topics.

The most liked comment on the Vance-Theo Von podcast is something like “this is the most normal sounding political guy ever. Dems say he is weird?”

Obviously his message is better received by Vons young male audience than OP who is most likely an UMC / coastal elite middle-aged woman.

But it illustrates the fact that people think the mainstream news is lying to them. Vance is very clearly intelligent and an excellent communicator, even if you hate his political positions.

Link to interview

https://youtu.be/vd8mmTDDqAs?si=IOQ3LYn3_8y9i9cu

Thanks for this link. I am starting to watch it.

Dems need to find guys. They need to be able to find guys who can talk football, throw around F-bombs without fear of being canceled. Sound like it's a guy you would talk to over a football game.

I am seeing why young men voted for Trump/Vance.

Dems can't let that demographic go away.

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Anonymous wrote:I think its because he's literally been MIA since the election. People, as whole, have the attention spans of gnats. Trump and Elon are running a clown show and JD is just lurking in the background somewhere.

He’s not MIA. He’s a Senator. He’s attending hearings.

Oh, I know. I live in his state. Other senate republicans are furious with him for missing votes on federal judges.

What are you babbling about? Media cameras literally followed him into one of those yesterday.

Only because he got shamed by those Senate Republicans. He deleted his tweet that it wasn’t important for him to be there because the result wouldn’t change.