Anonymous
10/30/2024 13:13
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Am I wrong? Americans are very individualistic. In other words, if an issue makes sense to them they can care less it may hurt someone else. I think drives a lot support for Mr Trump. Our own self interest are celebrated and encouraged.
For example a woman in a red state with draconian abortion laws will vote Trump because if she is a woman with financial means she knows that she can find a WAY to have an abortion for her daughter should she needs. So this woman does not care about another woman with less means who will be have no choice but to carry that child. Sadly we as a people think about ourselves a lot and only ourselves.
For example a woman in a red state with draconian abortion laws will vote Trump because if she is a woman with financial means she knows that she can find a WAY to have an abortion for her daughter should she needs. So this woman does not care about another woman with less means who will be have no choice but to carry that child. Sadly we as a people think about ourselves a lot and only ourselves.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 13:05
Subject: Re:Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
My DH is very committed to Trump losing and thinks this election is a really big deal.
But he would never in a million years phone bank or canvas (I've done both this year and in past elections -- he's never done it).
It has to do with really hating that kind of activity and isn't really about his politics. I totally get it -- that stuff can be very exhausting and awkward and it's really not for everyone.
For some people just voting and maybe talking to their family about politics and encouraging them to vote is enough. There's nothing wrong with that level of participation and you have to ask people for what they have to give.
OP at least your DH voted and voted for Harris.
But he would never in a million years phone bank or canvas (I've done both this year and in past elections -- he's never done it).
It has to do with really hating that kind of activity and isn't really about his politics. I totally get it -- that stuff can be very exhausting and awkward and it's really not for everyone.
For some people just voting and maybe talking to their family about politics and encouraging them to vote is enough. There's nothing wrong with that level of participation and you have to ask people for what they have to give.
OP at least your DH voted and voted for Harris.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 12:56
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Whether he does phone banking/canvassing or not will not change the outcome of the election. You are trying to control something that you actually do not have control over. Your dh is being realistic. You are redirecting your anxiety about the election into anger at him. This is a you problem, not a him problem.
+1M
Anonymous
10/30/2024 12:46
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m extremely concerned about the election. I think trump is a petulant vengeful baby who brings out the worst and appeals to the worst in humanity and cannot believe he is on the ticket (have voted both ways in the past but trump to me is next level insane). Trying to get dh to do canvassing/ phone banking but he doesn’t want to and is not concerned bc ‘it’s fine’ and ‘Kamala will win’. Clearly the polls do not clearly show this and to me his disinterest is personal - so many more women and babies have died since roe reversed. I just feel like he is a weenie not to be as fired up as I am or at least in the ballpark of it. Anyone else?
He is more than a weeny. he is a selfish douche. Stop spending your energy trying to convince or force him. Go about your life and do the things you think are important.
Sadly, I think we have to realize (but not accept) that generally men don’t give a crap about women. There’s a reason why Michelle Obama was begging men to care about women’s lives in her speech - most of them generally don’t.
For you, it’s your husband who is showing he doesn’t care, which is very painful. For me, it’s my brothers. My brother continues to say explicitly that he will vote for Trump, “because he’s better for the economy” and that’s what’s good for him. Despite the fact that I have said to him that Trump, objectively, has already and will continue to make the life of his lesbian niece, whom he professes to love, much harder. So hard in fact, that she may choose to move out of the country. My brothers also have made it clear that, despite the fact that they know almost nothing about pregnancy conditions, women can’t be trusted to make decisions in the 3rd month of pregnancy. It makes me very sad that they do not value my life or the life of my kids and their future. We are not estranged, but this definitely has made me less interested in supporting them. Support can no longer be one way from women to men.
For all of us, we have to stop investing in men, supporting men, and trying to teach or get them to be good men. Be a good guy or get the heck out of my way. I’m done wasting my energy on them.
Meh. Don’t be made at your brothers. Be mad at me instead. I’m a woman who is voting for Trump. (And also you may want to be careful with your non-inclusive language that suggests abortion or pregnancy conditions are “women’s issues”—yours is the party of science that believes “some men can get pregnant” and “some men have abortions”)
Ditto. Woman here voting for Trump for the third time because not all of us believe in the right to kill innocent humans in utero.
I sincerely hope all of you women voting for Trump because of your anti-abortion beliefs have severe and potentially life-threatening pregnancy complications.
Unhinged
Anonymous
10/30/2024 12:44
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m extremely concerned about the election. I think trump is a petulant vengeful baby who brings out the worst and appeals to the worst in humanity and cannot believe he is on the ticket (have voted both ways in the past but trump to me is next level insane). Trying to get dh to do canvassing/ phone banking but he doesn’t want to and is not concerned bc ‘it’s fine’ and ‘Kamala will win’. Clearly the polls do not clearly show this and to me his disinterest is personal - so many more women and babies have died since roe reversed. I just feel like he is a weenie not to be as fired up as I am or at least in the ballpark of it. Anyone else?
He is more than a weeny. he is a selfish douche. Stop spending your energy trying to convince or force him. Go about your life and do the things you think are important.
Sadly, I think we have to realize (but not accept) that generally men don’t give a crap about women. There’s a reason why Michelle Obama was begging men to care about women’s lives in her speech - most of them generally don’t.
For you, it’s your husband who is showing he doesn’t care, which is very painful. For me, it’s my brothers. My brother continues to say explicitly that he will vote for Trump, “because he’s better for the economy” and that’s what’s good for him. Despite the fact that I have said to him that Trump, objectively, has already and will continue to make the life of his lesbian niece, whom he professes to love, much harder. So hard in fact, that she may choose to move out of the country. My brothers also have made it clear that, despite the fact that they know almost nothing about pregnancy conditions, women can’t be trusted to make decisions in the 3rd month of pregnancy. It makes me very sad that they do not value my life or the life of my kids and their future. We are not estranged, but this definitely has made me less interested in supporting them. Support can no longer be one way from women to men.
For all of us, we have to stop investing in men, supporting men, and trying to teach or get them to be good men. Be a good guy or get the heck out of my way. I’m done wasting my energy on them.
Meh. Don’t be made at your brothers. Be mad at me instead. I’m a woman who is voting for Trump. (And also you may want to be careful with your non-inclusive language that suggests abortion or pregnancy conditions are “women’s issues”—yours is the party of science that believes “some men can get pregnant” and “some men have abortions”)
Ditto. Woman here voting for Trump for the third time because not all of us believe in the right to kill innocent humans in utero.
I sincerely hope all of you women voting for Trump because of your anti-abortion beliefs have severe and potentially life-threatening pregnancy complications. Truly.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 10:58
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
I thought you were going to be mad he wasn’t voting…but canvassing???
Yeah, no, some people aren’t up for that. You’re being a jerk.
Yeah, no, some people aren’t up for that. You’re being a jerk.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 10:48
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Op I get it you are right
Most people think oh in four years we can vote him out so whatever
NO there will never be another election
give me a break. you are unhinged.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 10:26
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:My husband is passive and reactive about everything, and voting. Never: takes a stand, voices a concern, has an opinion, advocates for his own children. Never.
Yes I have lost respect for him.
+1
Wusses are wusses. Move on
Anonymous
10/30/2024 10:03
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Op I get it you are right
Most people think oh in four years we can vote him out so whatever
NO there will never be another election
Most people think oh in four years we can vote him out so whatever
NO there will never be another election
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:45
Subject: Re:Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The beauty of the USA is that we can each vote for whomever we like. We can canvas, we can not canvas. We can go to rallies. We can stay home. Freedom of choice.
Do you drama queens truly not understand this?
You left out “because we have a democratic system.”
One option in this election will be infringing on many people’s rights, including the right to fair and open elections. That’s pretty bad.
Can you link where Trump has said he is against fair and open elections? Because this I haven’t heard.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:39
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m extremely concerned about the election. I think trump is a petulant vengeful baby who brings out the worst and appeals to the worst in humanity and cannot believe he is on the ticket (have voted both ways in the past but trump to me is next level insane). Trying to get dh to do canvassing/ phone banking but he doesn’t want to and is not concerned bc ‘it’s fine’ and ‘Kamala will win’. Clearly the polls do not clearly show this and to me his disinterest is personal - so many more women and babies have died since roe reversed. I just feel like he is a weenie not to be as fired up as I am or at least in the ballpark of it. Anyone else?
He is more than a weeny. he is a selfish douche. Stop spending your energy trying to convince or force him. Go about your life and do the things you think are important.
Sadly, I think we have to realize (but not accept) that generally men don’t give a crap about women. There’s a reason why Michelle Obama was begging men to care about women’s lives in her speech - most of them generally don’t.
For you, it’s your husband who is showing he doesn’t care, which is very painful. For me, it’s my brothers. My brother continues to say explicitly that he will vote for Trump, “because he’s better for the economy” and that’s what’s good for him. Despite the fact that I have said to him that Trump, objectively, has already and will continue to make the life of his lesbian niece, whom he professes to love, much harder. So hard in fact, that she may choose to move out of the country. My brothers also have made it clear that, despite the fact that they know almost nothing about pregnancy conditions, women can’t be trusted to make decisions in the 3rd month of pregnancy. It makes me very sad that they do not value my life or the life of my kids and their future. We are not estranged, but this definitely has made me less interested in supporting them. Support can no longer be one way from women to men.
For all of us, we have to stop investing in men, supporting men, and trying to teach or get them to be good men. Be a good guy or get the heck out of my way. I’m done wasting my energy on them.
Meh. Don’t be made at your brothers. Be mad at me instead. I’m a woman who is voting for Trump. (And also you may want to be careful with your non-inclusive language that suggests abortion or pregnancy conditions are “women’s issues”—yours is the party of science that believes “some men can get pregnant” and “some men have abortions”)
Ditto. Woman here voting for Trump for the third time because not all of us believe in the right to kill innocent humans in utero.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:25
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:Not to mention no “freedom of choice” for women in red states.
That’s their problem. They want it this way. Stop patronizing them and concern trolling for them.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:13
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Not to mention no “freedom of choice” for women in red states.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:13
Subject: Re:Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:The beauty of the USA is that we can each vote for whomever we like. We can canvas, we can not canvas. We can go to rallies. We can stay home. Freedom of choice.
Do you drama queens truly not understand this?
You left out “because we have a democratic system.”
One option in this election will be infringing on many people’s rights, including the right to fair and open elections. That’s pretty bad.
Anonymous
10/30/2024 09:00
Subject: Losing respect for dh over passivity about the election
Anonymous wrote:I can relate! My DH is voting for Harris but thinks both sides are awful and he is just choosing the lesser of the two evils. He is very condescending about it. I love him but it’s infuriating. And for everyone saying all we can do is vote, that’s not true! Yes vote, but there are a lot of things you can do: donate, door knock, talk to undecided friends/family, sign up to text, volunteer on Election Day…
Your DH is likely voting for Trump and not telling you.