Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 16:53     Subject: MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

In 2021 the board approved the Woodward construction contract at a non-prevailing wage. It was specifically mentioned in the memo as a cost savings.

There is nothing illegal about not paying prevailing wage.

But it does mean you can't qualify for the subsidy from the state.

They had a choice - prevailing wage contract with higher costs that are offset by state aid or non-prevailing wage that costs less but you forego state aid.

They appear to have thought that because they had bid and contracted parts of the project at PW (planning, demolition, site work), they could keep all the state aid even for the construction contract.

So whoever ran the financing numbers for this was bad at their job.

If you look at that board memo, the initials on it are Seth Adams, Eugenia Dawson, and Monifa McKnight.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 02:03     Subject: MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what consequences Taylor will dole out to McGuire. At the end of the day, BOE incumbents approved this. They are to blame as well. Another reason to vote out all the incumbents this election.


Honestly, no one good is running for Board of Ed. Sad and scary.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 09:28     Subject: MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Wonder what consequences Taylor will dole out to McGuire. At the end of the day, BOE incumbents approved this. They are to blame as well. Another reason to vote out all the incumbents this election.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 09:02     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.


That's what I said


No. You claimed they accepted on prevailing wage bids. That’s not true. They accepted bids that were not prevailing wage and lost the state funding.


Evidence?


That is why they lost the funding.


Where's the documentation of that? Details matter more than feelings.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 16:31     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.


That's what I said


No. You claimed they accepted on prevailing wage bids. That’s not true. They accepted bids that were not prevailing wage and lost the state funding.


Evidence?


That is why they lost the funding.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 15:54     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.


That's what I said


No. You claimed they accepted on prevailing wage bids. That’s not true. They accepted bids that were not prevailing wage and lost the state funding.


Evidence?
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 12:10     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.


That's what I said


No. You claimed they accepted on prevailing wage bids. That’s not true. They accepted bids that were not prevailing wage and lost the state funding.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:54     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.


That's what I said
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:47     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


This is the SECOND contract bungle that Essie is directly attached to. I am struggling to understand why this woman should be Dr. Taylor’s chief of staff. She is problematic.



MPR her disciplinary record
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:39     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


This is the SECOND contract bungle that Essie is directly attached to. I am struggling to understand why this woman should be Dr. Taylor’s chief of staff. She is problematic.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:36     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.



No
Prevailing wage bids were included.
Weren’t all bid that way.
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:35     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

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Anonymous wrote:https://mocoshow.com/2024/10/23/mcps-statement-regarding-recommended-fy26-capital-budget-and-amendments-to-the-fy-2025-30-capital-improvements-program/

So this was not a one-time error:

Dating back to 2021, MCPS miscalculated prevailing wage and bid awards across the multiple phases of the project. This error was entirely MCPS’s.


I appreciate that there was a lot more detail here than what was in the board docs, and that Taylor is "supremely disappointed," but I need to know what actions will be taken to remediate this pretty gross failing on the part of multiple individuals and departments. I also think the BOE failed here too. But since they don't have independent staff, relying on the elected board members to be sharp on this stuff is unrealistic.


The Board of Education hires the superintendent.

It is up to them to hire someone who obeys the laws. They seem incapable of doing that.


These "errors" happened during Smith and/or McKnight's tenures, not Taylor's.


And it’s likely an error in some formula that was uncovered. Not just someone continuously carelessly entering amounts wrong.


They did not follow the law on paying wages.

Now talk to the workers who were underpaid and give them your excuses.


Speculation.



Do you not understand the word wage?


Do you know understand that stringing words together doesn't make facts?
Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:34     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1


So they let non-prevailing wage bids be submitted, but the bid they ACCEPTED was prevailing wage.

This is bureaucratic paperwork bullsht.

Anonymous
Post 10/25/2024 11:30     Subject: Re:MCPS not receiving millions in State Aid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I appreciated hearing Taylor's comments at the beginning of this morning's CIP meeting, and also his response to Julie Yang's question on how he will ensure these errors are not happening in the future (which occurs around minute 56:30):



His answer to Yang’s question was nonsensical. He said he didn’t want to assign blame but admitted that people missed deadlines and were moving too fast. So clearly there are people to blame if both of those things he claimed are true.


I took that to mean he didn't want to name specific people who are no longer at MCPS, but clearly acknowledged that the staff at the time had made these errors.


Basically those folks are still there and he's going to let it pass.


They sure are - two of them were even at the table across from him yesterday


Here is one

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2024/10/mcps-chief-of-staff-essie-mcguire.html?m=1