Anonymous wrote:Here is a good summary refuting some of the claims made in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Glenn Youngkin committed voter fraud.

When will he be prosecuted? This needs to be severe.

Taking dead people off the voter roles is not voter fraud, PP. get over it.

This is political weaponization of the DOJ like we’ve never seen before. Dems must be getting some bad news via internal polling to get this desperate.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wset.com/amp/news/local/gov-youngkin-issues-statement-after-doj-files-lawsuit-over-noncitizen-voting-in-va-october-2024-election-commonwealth-virginia-glenn-democracy

Non-citizens do not have the right to vote. Why is the DOJ going to bat for non-American citizens to vote?

You know why. Everyone knows why.

Sure. Because some citizens are being removed as well. And if the don’t have things like original birth certificates, could be prevented from voting even if the are and have always been US citizens. And because what Younkin is doing is clearly illegal. Even if you like it, she’s still committing a crime. Like son like father.

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Non-citizens do not have the right to vote. Why is the DOJ going to bat for non-American citizens to vote?

You know why. Everyone knows why.

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Anonymous wrote:I am guessing they are "inadvertently" removing citizens too. It happened to me in 2013, the last time we had a Republican governor.

They are

Serious question. Do you know this or are you assuming it’s true?

Nobody is providing any evidence to show it is true.

Here, let me write a post for you, with links, that you can ignore, since that’s how you’ve remained a Republican so far.

Alabama: “Republican Secretary of State Wes Allen in August announced an initiative “to remove noncitizens registered to vote in Alabama.” More than 3,000 people who had been previously issued noncitizen identification numbers will have their voter registration status made inactive and flagged for possible removal from the voter rolls. The Justice Department said both native-born and naturalized U.S. citizens, who are eligible to vote, received the letters saying their voting status was being made inactive.” https://www.wvtm13.com/article/justice-department-alabama-lawsuit-voter-rolls/62455133

Louisiana: with zero evidence, Gov Landry is sure that non-citizens are voting: https://lailluminator.com/2024/08/27/gov-landry-targets-noncitizens-in-louisiana-claiming-immigrants-pose-voter-fraud-risk/

Tennessee: only after a major outcry did they back off from their threat to remove over 14000 voters from the rolls. https://apnews.com/article/voting-citizenship-tennessee-7802df69609bc54eb55d9296f6321100

This happened in 2020 as well but the busy little bees who help massage Google results have effectively removed all those stories from view. I could go on, but it’s honestly pearls after swine since you won’t read it, much like the “I’m a rationale conservative thread” on which it’s been amply proven that Republicans like to choose their voters and suppress the rest.

People who receive a letter that they are a non-citizen and aren’t allowed to legally vote just have to provide proof they are a legal citizen. I have to provide proof to register to vote; why don’t other people have to do
so?

The vast majority of US citizens don’t have a notarized birth certificate

False, everyone has to have one of those to get a Real ID driver's license now. And they aren't "notarized". Are you even a US citizen?

Real ID is not a proof of US citizenship. Non-citizens who are in the U.S. legally (eg Green Card Holders) can also get a Real ID and they are not citizens who can vote in federal elections.

So there needs to be stricter voting standards than what are currently in place.

Perhaps 4-5 forms of ID required, and "in-person voting" only then. Maybe the dip the thumb in ink thing also.

It's appalling that many really poor countries have more strict and legitimate elections than we have here.

why? there isn't a problem. zero proof of significant voter fraud, and were there is, it is republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:I am guessing they are "inadvertently" removing citizens too. It happened to me in 2013, the last time we had a Republican governor.

They are

Serious question. Do you know this or are you assuming it’s true?

Nobody is providing any evidence to show it is true.

Here, let me write a post for you, with links, that you can ignore, since that’s how you’ve remained a Republican so far.

Alabama: “Republican Secretary of State Wes Allen in August announced an initiative “to remove noncitizens registered to vote in Alabama.” More than 3,000 people who had been previously issued noncitizen identification numbers will have their voter registration status made inactive and flagged for possible removal from the voter rolls. The Justice Department said both native-born and naturalized U.S. citizens, who are eligible to vote, received the letters saying their voting status was being made inactive.” https://www.wvtm13.com/article/justice-department-alabama-lawsuit-voter-rolls/62455133

Louisiana: with zero evidence, Gov Landry is sure that non-citizens are voting: https://lailluminator.com/2024/08/27/gov-landry-targets-noncitizens-in-louisiana-claiming-immigrants-pose-voter-fraud-risk/

Tennessee: only after a major outcry did they back off from their threat to remove over 14000 voters from the rolls. https://apnews.com/article/voting-citizenship-tennessee-7802df69609bc54eb55d9296f6321100

This happened in 2020 as well but the busy little bees who help massage Google results have effectively removed all those stories from view. I could go on, but it’s honestly pearls after swine since you won’t read it, much like the “I’m a rationale conservative thread” on which it’s been amply proven that Republicans like to choose their voters and suppress the rest.

People who receive a letter that they are a non-citizen and aren’t allowed to legally vote just have to provide proof they are a legal citizen. I have to provide proof to register to vote; why don’t other people have to do
so?

The vast majority of US citizens don’t have a notarized birth certificate

False, everyone has to have one of those to get a Real ID driver's license now. And they aren't "notarized". Are you even a US citizen?

Real ID is not a proof of US citizenship. Non-citizens who are in the U.S. legally (eg Green Card Holders) can also get a Real ID and they are not citizens who can vote in federal elections.

So there needs to be stricter voting standards than what are currently in place.

Perhaps 4-5 forms of ID required, and "in-person voting" only then. Maybe the dip the thumb in ink thing also.

It's appalling that many really poor countries have more strict and legitimate elections than we have here.

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Anonymous wrote:The trope that non-citizens are voting anywhere in the US is FALSE. The right is using it as a anti-immigrant racist way to energize its base.

Youngkin, that turpid worm who was elected in VA by playing on the fears of parents during the pandemic and who like Vance is an amoral opportunist, is trying to position himself well in the Trump universe by signaling his MAGA credentials.

Thank goodness we have laws to stop him.

Happy to point this out to you. From the Washington Post:

In a first, noncitizens are voting in D.C. Here’s what it means to them.
More than 500 noncitizen District residents have registered to vote, according to the D.C. Board of Elections.

They came to the United States from El Salvador, Ethiopia and Iran to study, earn money and escape violence. And they all found a home in the nation’s capital. They are not U.S. citizens, but they care about issues in their communities, including education, health care and affordable housing.

And for the first time, these noncitizen residents — some of whom have lived here for decades and have children who were born here — will have a say in how their communities are run: They are among the more than 500 noncitizen District residents who have registered to vote and have cast their ballots or are heading to the polls Tuesday to pick their representatives on the D.C. Council.

So you are wrong. Noncitizens, aka illegal immigrants are voting in the US.

These people did not vote in federal elections. Local and state voting for non-citizens is up to that jurisdiction. You are confusing the two, or just not that bright.

That does not matter. You/PP keep saying that illegal aliens don't vote; we keep telling you that they do.

People without US citizenship should have zero rights to vote on anything in the US. Local or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothingburger. Want to vote? Show proof of citizenship. Why isn’t everyone behind this?

President Biden address this already, very early in his term. It’s right in a White House transcript. The problem is, as the president explained, blacks and other minorities often don’t have access to the internet or don’t know how to get a drivers license. So it’s unfair to require a drivers license to vote. Biden explained it all already.

Only a racist asshat would truly believe that black people don't know how to gain access, or use the internet. Let alone knowing how to get a drivers license.

Do you even hear yourself? No wonder that black people are starting to leave the democratic party. geez.

Anonymous wrote:Look - Governor Youngkin just committed voter fraud. He’s a criminal who violated laws pertaining to federal elections. He is not allowed to purge voter rolls within 90 days of a federal election.

Law breaker - Glenn Youngkin.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

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Anonymous wrote:The trope that non-citizens are voting anywhere in the US is FALSE. The right is using it as a anti-immigrant racist way to energize its base.

Youngkin, that turpid worm who was elected in VA by playing on the fears of parents during the pandemic and who like Vance is an amoral opportunist, is trying to position himself well in the Trump universe by signaling his MAGA credentials.

Thank goodness we have laws to stop him.

Happy to point this out to you. From the Washington Post:

In a first, noncitizens are voting in D.C. Here’s what it means to them.
More than 500 noncitizen District residents have registered to vote, according to the D.C. Board of Elections.

They came to the United States from El Salvador, Ethiopia and Iran to study, earn money and escape violence. And they all found a home in the nation’s capital. They are not U.S. citizens, but they care about issues in their communities, including education, health care and affordable housing.

And for the first time, these noncitizen residents — some of whom have lived here for decades and have children who were born here — will have a say in how their communities are run: They are among the more than 500 noncitizen District residents who have registered to vote and have cast their ballots or are heading to the polls Tuesday to pick their representatives on the D.C. Council.

So you are wrong. Noncitizens, aka illegal immigrants are voting in the US.

Non citizens are not necessarily "illegal immigrants" - they can be green card holders or have some other status. Your ignorance is shining through.

30 Years of Non-Citizen Voting in Takoma Park: November marks the 30th anniversary of the first non-U.S. residents voting in Takoma Park.

The landmark initiative first passed by the Takoma Park City Council in 1992 gave immigrants—regardless of their legal status—the right to vote in municipal elections. In Takoma Park, nearly one-third of the residents are foreign-born, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Here is another:

"Noncitizens are eligible to vote if they are at least 18 years old as of Election Day, have been a D.C. resident for at least 30 days before the election" <- You only have to live in DC for 30 days to vote in local elections.

This means that illegal immigrants can and do vote in DC and Maryland. I am perfectly okay with Younkin making sure that the right to vote in my state of Virginia is only a right of US citizens.