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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

What I've observed here: a number of these folks work these jobs while going to school to become RNs/BSNs. They remain in the health care professions.

This^^^ The are smart people, working their asses off to make a better life for their families. They take whatever job they can (get their CNA which is relatively easy to get), work hard 40-50 hour weeks along with getting their nursing degrees. Doing stuff most "Americans" are not willing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Yes if you've been to a nursing home, it's mostly immigrants.

Same for home care providers as well. We need the immigration.

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The vast majority of jobs immigrants do are ones that most Americans would not do for that low pay. Who does home painting, roofing, working the fields and picking our food in bad conditions for extremely low pay? Mostly immigrants (many are here legally on work permits, and they live in a house with 10-15 others and send majority of their money back home to family).

Hard workers that we need to keep the economy functioning.

Anonymous wrote:Vote buying--not sustainable.

It currently costs $30 per hour for home care.

It costs $262,800 for 24 hour care for a senior in home for 1 adult under care.

This is not fiscally supportable.

The chance that this will cover 24-hour care is probably close to nil. The chance that this may cover enough care that allows the adult child to work outside the home, continue to save for their retirement, then come home to their parent is more likely. This really could be a win-win.

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

No of course not. You can do the job. Why don’t we force you?

If I wanted to immigrate to another country and that was a requirement, I could choose to do it or choose not to immigrate.

But my situation is irrelevant. PP said that we need immigrants to do this work, and now you are saying that immigrants should not do the work.
So which is it?

The only person saying immigrants should NOT do the work is you.

Most of these jobs are filled by immigrants. Many also pursue a nursing degree to increase their wages and employment prospects. When they leave, the jobs are often filled by a new round of immigrants.

Vote buying--not sustainable.

It currently costs $30 per hour for home care.

It costs $262,800 for 24 hour care for a senior in home for 1 adult under care.

This is not fiscally supportable.

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

Really?

I don't understand your question.

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

No of course not. You can do the job. Why don’t we force you?

If I wanted to immigrate to another country and that was a requirement, I could choose to do it or choose not to immigrate.

But my situation is irrelevant. PP said that we need immigrants to do this work, and now you are saying that immigrants should not do the work.
So which is it?

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

No of course not. You can do the job. Why don’t we force you?

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

What I've observed here: a number of these folks work these jobs while going to school to become RNs/BSNs. They remain in the health care professions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

Really?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

There are a lot of immigrants who do not work in elderly care. Should the US have some type of rule that people can only immigrate here if they are willing to work at least X number of years in elder care?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Exactly. Elder care/home health aides, landscaping, produce field work...these jobs are ones most Americans will not do, and yet they are VITAL.

When my (late) Dad needed help at home, it's nearly impossible to find/keep, because there aren't enough immigrants even. There are elderly people who end up in MUCH more expensive nursing homes, because of not being able to find home help.

We were able to keep Dad at home until the last 3 weeks, mainly because of my Mom caring for him, me helping, and what help we were able to find. Without the help, he probably would have spent at least a year in a nursing home, which is far more expensive than the occasional help.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Yes if you've been to a nursing home, it's mostly immigrants.

Same for home care providers as well. We need the immigration.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.

Yes if you've been to a nursing home, it's mostly immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:This would require massive immigration to actually staff, no matter how much money was available, and at the same time those immigrants are being sought after by other countries with declining demographics.

well, we have that already ... massive immigration. too bad they are all unskilled.

Who do you think work at the low paying jobs, including elderly and nursing care.