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Anonymous wrote:I assume that many of you live in typical suburban neighborhoods with lawns. If I want to live in the suburbs but not have a lawn (so as to avoid lawn care and chemicals) what do you recommend? Have people actually dug up their lawns and put something else there? Dirt or gravel? I feel like this might work in shore towns but not most inland suburbs the way most neighborhoods are laid out. Can any Takoma Park or Garrett Park residents weigh in on alternatives to lawns?

I think what people are saying is that your “lawn” doesn’t have to look like a golf course. If the green stuff consists of random grass, dandelions, clover, and assorted “weeds”, it would still look just as green.

In lieu of removing lawns entirely, you can shrink them too. There is nothing odd about a yard with lots of beds, with the lawn acting as the path.

Agree with this but particularly clover— clover is great for lawns but industry convinced people it was out of place so they could sell supplies to get rid of clover and then supplies to replace the nutrients that clover provides. Smdh

True Green >>> TruGreen

Anonymous wrote:I assume that many of you live in typical suburban neighborhoods with lawns. If I want to live in the suburbs but not have a lawn (so as to avoid lawn care and chemicals) what do you recommend? Have people actually dug up their lawns and put something else there? Dirt or gravel? I feel like this might work in shore towns but not most inland suburbs the way most neighborhoods are laid out. Can any Takoma Park or Garrett Park residents weigh in on alternatives to lawns?

I think what people are saying is that your “lawn” doesn’t have to look like a golf course. If the green stuff consists of random grass, dandelions, clover, and assorted “weeds”, it would still look just as green.

In lieu of removing lawns entirely, you can shrink them too. There is nothing odd about a yard with lots of beds, with the lawn acting as the path.

Agreed that stuff is awful. It is of particular concern for any small children in your neighborhood too. It will probably be illegal in a few years. Please stop using it.

I assume that many of you live in typical suburban neighborhoods with lawns. If I want to live in the suburbs but not have a lawn (so as to avoid lawn care and chemicals) what do you recommend? Have people actually dug up their lawns and put something else there? Dirt or gravel? I feel like this might work in shore towns but not most inland suburbs the way most neighborhoods are laid out. Can any Takoma Park or Garrett Park residents weigh in on alternatives to lawns?

Anonymous wrote:" In 2020, the non-profit organization Beyond Pesticides sued TruGreen over its claim to offer "environmentally friendly, sustainable lawn care services that use no chemicals that may cause cancer, allergic reactions, or other health or environmental harms"—statements that Beyond Pesticides asserts are false and deceptive. TruGreen uses glyphosate, classified as probably carcinogenic by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, as well as a weedkiller with a label warning of "irreversible eye damage" and "allergic reactions," and a neurotoxic insecticide, according to Beyond Pesticides. "

https://www.ehn.org/pesticide-free-lawn-care-2654774400.html

+1

Terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop, not only for your neighbor’s sake but yours as well. All those chemicals are unnecessary.

I’m fine with it. We’ve used it before at another home, and it worked well. That’s why we are using it again. It gave us a nice lawn

I know two people with lupus. One which was likely caused by exposure to pesticides in the 1960s. She’s now extremely sensitive to chemicals and also had non-hodgkins lymphoma again likely due to chemical exposure. Sure, she can’t necessarily prove it since that is impossible to do but I will add that her father used roundup and all three siblings (including my mom) got non-hodgkins lymphoma. These lawn chemicals are dangerous. And a long healthy life should mean more to you than nice grass.

Just to point out, I’m not spraying it on her lawn. My own lawn. Round up is not the same btw

If TruGreen uses glyphosate, as PP upthread quoted, then yes it is the same as Roundup.

It used to be called Chem Lawn for a reason. Stop it.

Folks, the link between these chemicals and lots of health conditions is documented. And some of them -round up- is in fact banned in some countries for this reason.

Google Kiss the Ground and there is a lot of background information as to the origins of these chemicals. It's not good.

You can argue about your "rights" all you want. Fine. But there is no argument as to the harm that comes from using these chemicals. Your views that they are fine is opinion; the conclusion that the are not fine is a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:We have such gorgeous lawns in our neighborhood. Lush bright green and beautiful grass....all over. I mean, it's a work of art. Such a metaphor for the way people live- deadly chemicals and hubris to achieve a certain look. Nothing matters but beauty.
It's tragic, really.

It kills all the bees.

why would beas be on the lawn

Lots of bees nest in the ground. And if you have any sort of clover or dandelions or other small flowers that creep in, they pollinate them and the poison kills them.

Anonymous wrote:Wwyd?? She seems rather delicate and is hard to deal with

You're poisoning your lawn, which is your choice. But also hers too. And the environment. What you do affects other people. You're certainly not obligated to stop using it but it is worth reflecting on whether this is something worth continuing.

We personally do not use such chemicals since, after one of our dogs had nasal cancer that our vet was linked to such things, we stopped. But we have neighbors who still use an "organic" version of Tru Green. Whatever, still chemicals to support a monoculture wasteland. Lawns contribute nothing to nature. I get the desire, as we have one too, but we don't pour poison into ours and, shockingly, the world has not ended.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP is a woman. I'm getting small dick energy from their posts.

Same

Why? OP is asking for alternatives. Isn’t that what you want?

Calling thr neighbor "delicate", not acknowledging that spraying his lawn can affect her property, telling posters he doesn't agree with to "get mental health care".

The OP is asking for advice on alternatives and thanking people for being helpful and admonishing the ones who aren’t. You’re not understanding what’s going on at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP is a woman. I'm getting small dick energy from their posts.

Same

Why? OP is asking for alternatives. Isn’t that what you want?

Calling thr neighbor "delicate", not acknowledging that spraying his lawn can affect her property, telling posters he doesn't agree with to "get mental health care".

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP is a woman. I'm getting small dick energy from their posts.

Same

Why? OP is asking for alternatives. Isn’t that what you want?

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop, not only for your neighbor’s sake but yours as well. All those chemicals are unnecessary.

I’m fine with it. We’ve used it before at another home, and it worked well. That’s why we are using it again. It gave us a nice lawn

oh for gods sakes. your lawn will work fine without using it. is this a troll? you'd rather give your neighbor and possible your family members health issues so you can have some Stepford Wife lawn?

stop using it

Based on what OP has written, I believe it's a rental property.

Then let the landlord deal with it.

OP is the landlord

So what difference does it make as a rental? His property to do what he wants with.