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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing people are mad because they paid a sheet ton to see her and she cancels last minute.

She could make music but not tour.

That is definitely one factor, but the other is her attitude about it. People are bringing up Taylor and Simone, but they are very gracious with their fans. There’s been several instances where chapel acts annoyed at her fans, especially with the video telling people they need to use critical thinking skills in choosing how to vote, and the way she talked to photographers on the red carpet at the VMAs. I’m guessing she may be neurodivergent with the way she interacts with people, which unfortunately sometimes you come off way that you don’t intend. I hate to say it, but she sure is unlikable at times.

Well, probably most people are unlikealbe at times. Simone definitely seems gracious with her fans, but she gets less of the paps and fandom than pop princesses do.. Taylor has always seemed manipulative with her fan base and Beyoncé seems like she tries to ice queen people away. Chapell is yelling at fans and the paps to get space. They all handle fame differently, but the thing is fans and fame are toxic. There is no denying that.

And I agree there is neurodivergence or childhood abuse or some combination of the two at work in Chappell. But I still like her music and really enjoy singing to it. Hopefully, some kind of detente comes out of this for Chapelle.

Yelling and acting inappropriate is not required. She could rise above it but she apparently wants to roll around in the muck. It’s not very surprising her fan base seems to be as unhinged and off kilter as she seems to be. Like attracts like.

Yet, the way you invoke personal attacks as an argument strategy is demonstrative of your ability to roll around in the muck. Can you rise above?

She’s complaining about her fans. Are you saying they aren’t actually a problem?

If “like attracts like” why are Taylor fans issuing death threats to reporters and taking mean swipes at her exes online. The PP statement was coming from a very mean-spirited place, not building an argument that chapelles fans are over zealous.

“unhinged and off kilter” are not objective statements, they are adjectives used to disparage. As is “wants to roll around in the muck”

Taylor isn’t canceling concerts and complaining about her fans this way, so like does not equal like. You can take issue all you like but the fact is her fans are doing this, she is responding the way she is, and it’s all a mess. Take it or leave it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing people are mad because they paid a sheet ton to see her and she cancels last minute.

She could make music but not tour.

That is definitely one factor, but the other is her attitude about it. People are bringing up Taylor and Simone, but they are very gracious with their fans. There’s been several instances where chapel acts annoyed at her fans, especially with the video telling people they need to use critical thinking skills in choosing how to vote, and the way she talked to photographers on the red carpet at the VMAs. I’m guessing she may be neurodivergent with the way she interacts with people, which unfortunately sometimes you come off way that you don’t intend. I hate to say it, but she sure is unlikable at times.

Well, probably most people are unlikealbe at times. Simone definitely seems gracious with her fans, but she gets less of the paps and fandom than pop princesses do.. Taylor has always seemed manipulative with her fan base and Beyoncé seems like she tries to ice queen people away. Chapell is yelling at fans and the paps to get space. They all handle fame differently, but the thing is fans and fame are toxic. There is no denying that.

And I agree there is neurodivergence or childhood abuse or some combination of the two at work in Chappell. But I still like her music and really enjoy singing to it. Hopefully, some kind of detente comes out of this for Chapelle.

Yelling and acting inappropriate is not required. She could rise above it but she apparently wants to roll around in the muck. It’s not very surprising her fan base seems to be as unhinged and off kilter as she seems to be. Like attracts like.

Yet, the way you invoke personal attacks as an argument strategy is demonstrative of your ability to roll around in the muck. Can you rise above?

She’s complaining about her fans. Are you saying they aren’t actually a problem?

If “like attracts like” why are Taylor fans issuing death threats to reporters and taking mean swipes at her exes online. The PP statement was coming from a very mean-spirited place, not building an argument that chapelles fans are over zealous.

“unhinged and off kilter” are not objective statements, they are adjectives used to disparage. As is “wants to roll around in the muck”

Anonymous wrote:I like her music. But she is unhinged. Without the garb and makeup she is just your basic cute young adult….. except she has major anger issues and unhinged outburts. She Reacts to everything said about her in social media, like she Goes Off. Girl, just make your music and go on tour. No one cares about your political views, u should have learned from the backlash at Taylor Swift. Just STFU already you’re not that important. I do believe she has mental health issues though, she’s a very angry girl.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly unstable. Cue to a few years from now when she announces she has borderline personality or ADHD or anxiety or a combo or something.

A few years? Probably by the end of 2024 or early 2025. She doesn’t seem well at all now.

She has already said that she is bi-polar.

And? Why is that suddenly an issue? There seems to be a lot more going on.

Anonymous wrote:She does need a PR team.

Celebs can generally choose one of two routes with their fans, imho. They can do Taylor’s parasocial thing, where fans think they really know her and she cares deeply about them. Or they can do the Beyoncé thing, where they keep their performing lives mostly separate. You cannot do both. And Chappell seems to be trying to do both. It’s not healthy for her or her fans.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly unstable. Cue to a few years from now when she announces she has borderline personality or ADHD or anxiety or a combo or something.

A few years? Probably by the end of 2024 or early 2025. She doesn’t seem well at all now.

She has already said that she is bi-polar.

And? Why is that suddenly an issue? There seems to be a lot more going on.

Because when she was booking the shows she was the side act that nobody listened to. She is now the front act and being chased by paparazzi.

She courted fame but now can’t deal. She isn’t cut out for this after all. Her skin is way too thin.

Absolutely but it is sad because I still like her music a lot. Why does the crappy fandom
And fame have to go along with being a musician?

This is why most people would never choose it. But she did.

She did and now maybe she will unchoose it. But I find it sad because she is talented and fun. It seems the only people who can “handle” the fame become kind of plastic, or at least their public persona becomes plastic and the music a bit boring.

The anger directed at her is sort of crazy. Like people have all these expectations about pop princesses and fan’s right to musicians and concerts. Can’t we just enjoy the music and how the musician delivers that to you is up to them. cant we enjoy the music without all the fandom drama?

I guess not, but I think we miss out on some talented people if that continues to be the stance. Who wants to be Taylor swift or Beyoncé? They aren’t free people at all- they are beholden to public opinion in a way that ends up stunting creativity in music. How can a musician create without all the fandoms crap? I guess many on DVUM think they can’t, but I think we are missing out on great songs if that is a hard line.

Yes fans feel they have a right to attend concerts once they pay for and purchase tickets. The artists make a ton of $$$ from them.

If an artist doesn't want to do concerts at all, that is a valid choice. But scheduling concerts and cancelling will make ppl angry and they are entitl d to their feelings.

Oh I thought it was a festival and other acts were still performing? I mean it wouldn’t be very respectful of other up and coming artists if the entire show was cancelled.

Anonymous wrote:She does need a PR team.

Celebs can generally choose one of two routes with their fans, imho. They can do Taylor’s parasocial thing, where fans think they really know her and she cares deeply about them. Or they can do the Beyoncé thing, where they keep their performing lives mostly separate. You cannot do both. And Chappell seems to be trying to do both. It’s not healthy for her or her fans.

Anonymous wrote:She does need a PR team.

Celebs can generally choose one of two routes with their fans, imho. They can do Taylor’s parasocial thing, where fans think they really know her and she cares deeply about them. Or they can do the Beyoncé thing, where they keep their performing lives mostly separate. You cannot do both. And Chappell seems to be trying to do both. It’s not healthy for her or her fans.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing people are mad because they paid a sheet ton to see her and she cancels last minute.

She could make music but not tour.

That is definitely one factor, but the other is her attitude about it. People are bringing up Taylor and Simone, but they are very gracious with their fans. There’s been several instances where chapel acts annoyed at her fans, especially with the video telling people they need to use critical thinking skills in choosing how to vote, and the way she talked to photographers on the red carpet at the VMAs. I’m guessing she may be neurodivergent with the way she interacts with people, which unfortunately sometimes you come off way that you don’t intend. I hate to say it, but she sure is unlikable at times.

Well, probably most people are unlikealbe at times. Simone definitely seems gracious with her fans, but she gets less of the paps and fandom than pop princesses do.. Taylor has always seemed manipulative with her fan base and Beyoncé seems like she tries to ice queen people away. Chapell is yelling at fans and the paps to get space. They all handle fame differently, but the thing is fans and fame are toxic. There is no denying that.

And I agree there is neurodivergence or childhood abuse or some combination of the two at work in Chappell. But I still like her music and really enjoy singing to it. Hopefully, some kind of detente comes out of this for Chapelle.

Yelling and acting inappropriate is not required. She could rise above it but she apparently wants to roll around in the muck. It’s not very surprising her fan base seems to be as unhinged and off kilter as she seems to be. Like attracts like.

Yet, the way you invoke personal attacks as an argument strategy is demonstrative of your ability to roll around in the muck. Can you rise above?

She’s complaining about her fans. Are you saying they aren’t actually a problem?

Anonymous wrote:She does need a PR team.

Celebs can generally choose one of two routes with their fans, imho. They can do Taylor’s parasocial thing, where fans think they really know her and she cares deeply about them. Or they can do the Beyoncé thing, where they keep their performing lives mostly separate. You cannot do both. And Chappell seems to be trying to do both. It’s not healthy for her or her fans.

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly unstable. Cue to a few years from now when she announces she has borderline personality or ADHD or anxiety or a combo or something.

A few years? Probably by the end of 2024 or early 2025. She doesn’t seem well at all now.

She has already said that she is bi-polar.

And? Why is that suddenly an issue? There seems to be a lot more going on.

Because when she was booking the shows she was the side act that nobody listened to. She is now the front act and being chased by paparazzi.

She courted fame but now can’t deal. She isn’t cut out for this after all. Her skin is way too thin.

Absolutely but it is sad because I still like her music a lot. Why does the crappy fandom
And fame have to go along with being a musician?

This is why most people would never choose it. But she did.

She did and now maybe she will unchoose it. But I find it sad because she is talented and fun. It seems the only people who can “handle” the fame become kind of plastic, or at least their public persona becomes plastic and the music a bit boring.

The anger directed at her is sort of crazy. Like people have all these expectations about pop princesses and fan’s right to musicians and concerts. Can’t we just enjoy the music and how the musician delivers that to you is up to them. cant we enjoy the music without all the fandom drama?

I guess not, but I think we miss out on some talented people if that continues to be the stance. Who wants to be Taylor swift or Beyoncé? They aren’t free people at all- they are beholden to public opinion in a way that ends up stunting creativity in music. How can a musician create without all the fandoms crap? I guess many on DVUM think they can’t, but I think we are missing out on great songs if that is a hard line.

Yes fans feel they have a right to attend concerts once they pay for and purchase tickets. The artists make a ton of $$$ from them.

If an artist doesn't want to do concerts at all, that is a valid choice. But scheduling concerts and cancelling will make ppl angry and they are entitl d to their feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing people are mad because they paid a sheet ton to see her and she cancels last minute.

She could make music but not tour.

That is definitely one factor, but the other is her attitude about it. People are bringing up Taylor and Simone, but they are very gracious with their fans. There’s been several instances where chapel acts annoyed at her fans, especially with the video telling people they need to use critical thinking skills in choosing how to vote, and the way she talked to photographers on the red carpet at the VMAs. I’m guessing she may be neurodivergent with the way she interacts with people, which unfortunately sometimes you come off way that you don’t intend. I hate to say it, but she sure is unlikable at times.

Well, probably most people are unlikealbe at times. Simone definitely seems gracious with her fans, but she gets less of the paps and fandom than pop princesses do.. Taylor has always seemed manipulative with her fan base and Beyoncé seems like she tries to ice queen people away. Chapell is yelling at fans and the paps to get space. They all handle fame differently, but the thing is fans and fame are toxic. There is no denying that.

And I agree there is neurodivergence or childhood abuse or some combination of the two at work in Chappell. But I still like her music and really enjoy singing to it. Hopefully, some kind of detente comes out of this for Chapelle.

Yelling and acting inappropriate is not required. She could rise above it but she apparently wants to roll around in the muck. It’s not very surprising her fan base seems to be as unhinged and off kilter as she seems to be. Like attracts like.

Yet, the way you invoke personal attacks as an argument strategy is demonstrative of your ability to roll around in the muck. Can you rise above?

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Anonymous wrote:She's clearly unstable. Cue to a few years from now when she announces she has borderline personality or ADHD or anxiety or a combo or something.

A few years? Probably by the end of 2024 or early 2025. She doesn’t seem well at all now.

She has already said that she is bi-polar.

And? Why is that suddenly an issue? There seems to be a lot more going on.

Because when she was booking the shows she was the side act that nobody listened to. She is now the front act and being chased by paparazzi.

She courted fame but now can’t deal. She isn’t cut out for this after all. Her skin is way too thin.

Absolutely but it is sad because I still like her music a lot. Why does the crappy fandom
And fame have to go along with being a musician?

This is why most people would never choose it. But she did.

She did and now maybe she will unchoose it. But I find it sad because she is talented and fun. It seems the only people who can “handle” the fame become kind of plastic, or at least their public persona becomes plastic and the music a bit boring.

The anger directed at her is sort of crazy. Like people have all these expectations about pop princesses and fan’s right to musicians and concerts. Can’t we just enjoy the music and how the musician delivers that to you is up to them. cant we enjoy the music without all the fandom drama?

I guess not, but I think we miss out on some talented people if that continues to be the stance. Who wants to be Taylor swift or Beyoncé? They aren’t free people at all- they are beholden to public opinion in a way that ends up stunting creativity in music. How can a musician create without all the fandoms crap? I guess many on DVUM think they can’t, but I think we are missing out on great songs if that is a hard line.

Yes fans feel they have a right to attend concerts once they pay for and purchase tickets. The artists make a ton of $$$ from them.

If an artist doesn't want to do concerts at all, that is a valid choice. But scheduling concerts and cancelling will make ppl angry and they are entitl d to their feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing people are mad because they paid a sheet ton to see her and she cancels last minute.

She could make music but not tour.

That is definitely one factor, but the other is her attitude about it. People are bringing up Taylor and Simone, but they are very gracious with their fans. There’s been several instances where chapel acts annoyed at her fans, especially with the video telling people they need to use critical thinking skills in choosing how to vote, and the way she talked to photographers on the red carpet at the VMAs. I’m guessing she may be neurodivergent with the way she interacts with people, which unfortunately sometimes you come off way that you don’t intend. I hate to say it, but she sure is unlikable at times.

Well, probably most people are unlikealbe at times. Simone definitely seems gracious with her fans, but she gets less of the paps and fandom than pop princesses do.. Taylor has always seemed manipulative with her fan base and Beyoncé seems like she tries to ice queen people away. Chapell is yelling at fans and the paps to get space. They all handle fame differently, but the thing is fans and fame are toxic. There is no denying that.

And I agree there is neurodivergence or childhood abuse or some combination of the two at work in Chappell. But I still like her music and really enjoy singing to it. Hopefully, some kind of detente comes out of this for Chapelle.

Yelling and acting inappropriate is not required. She could rise above it but she apparently wants to roll around in the muck. It’s not very surprising her fan base seems to be as unhinged and off kilter as she seems to be. Like attracts like.