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Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

I really like Morgan's character. I'm probably the minority. She reminds me of someone I know IRL.

Anonymous wrote:I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

Totally agree! The only thing they got right was the name “Sasha” for the brother — absolutely everything was way off.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

I loved her on Succession.

I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

It felt very uncomfortable to hear that word so much. It's a total slur putting down both Jewish women for not being as alluring as, and non Jewish women for not being as worthy as. It's somewhat okay for a woman to self-define as such in a humorous way but it really is not otherwise okay.

I mean isn't that something that was an episode 2 where they're in the bar and the girls are perplexed by the shiksa term and Joanne asked whether she should be offended or flattered and the rabbis response is technically to get us insult that means you're impure and detestable.
But these days it just means you're hot blonde non-jew.

I mean if you don't think that's hilarious then no the show is not for you. I laughed very loud at that part.

Because it's both talking about the truth which is the origination of the term and also how language evolves but let's be clear there are millions of Jews and some use that term the way it was originally intended.

I also get a little annoyed at the whole oh my God it's a stereotype as if the two blonde girls from California with a fruit loop mom and a gay dad who's been in the closet aren't also a stereotype.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

It felt very uncomfortable to hear that word so much. It's a total slur putting down both Jewish women for not being as alluring as, and non Jewish women for not being as worthy as. It's somewhat okay for a woman to self-define as such in a humorous way but it really is not otherwise okay.

Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing why we think Kristen did stuff to her face? I guess I’m not seeing it.

She’s 44 now, which means she was 43 when they filmed. It’s possible she just looks like this. I mean she’s clearly wearing make up and they do lighting to flatter her, but I’m not seeing obvious plastic surgery signs. Maybe some Botox. Not seeing any filler.

She looks late 30s, early 40s to me, which is about right.

Her lips, especially top lip. The work was very obvious.

I’m not seeing why we think Kristen did stuff to her face? I guess I’m not seeing it.

She’s 44 now, which means she was 43 when they filmed. It’s possible she just looks like this. I mean she’s clearly wearing make up and they do lighting to flatter her, but I’m not seeing obvious plastic surgery signs. Maybe some Botox. Not seeing any filler.

She looks late 30s, early 40s to me, which is about right.

Anonymous wrote:I have such a huge crush on Adam Brody. He looks so cute in this.

Same! I've loved him since the OC. The show is super cute and made me laugh a lot. However, based on the mixed reviews here, particularly from Jewish people, I probably won't mention it or recommend it to friends. But anonymously, I'll say it - my favorite show of 2024.

I sort of hated it? I am happy people like it and find it charming, because it is nice to have Jewish characters on tv and people being exposed to some nice aspects of Judaism, but that pretty much stopped there. It bothered me how the Rabbi was not remotely credible as a rabbi. Rebecca gets it right at the end, it does consume your life, and that is not shown at all. He wouldn't be playing basketball on Saturday, his house would be full of books, he didn't even pronounce many things right. He lived like a part time rich hipster and not a rabbi. Kristen Bell basically played her "bad person" Good Place character, just annoying. I hated that the sister was flirting with a married man and that Esther was portrayed in a bad light when she was just married to this big inept nepo baby doofus. And he gave up his career way too easily for her at the end while she gave up on converting way too easily because she never even gave a thought to what Rebecca said about being a rabbi's wife. They were too old to be this clueless and fickle.

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Anonymous wrote:I love it, binged over the weekend. My mid 40s daughter also loved it. We have no preconceived notions about Jewish people so it's all new to us, plus with the generally low quality of sit coms and rom coms we'll tolerate some stereotyping and stretches of reality.

Overall, A+

Then you must be the intended audience. This felt like a Jewish primer in different places. I have Jewish in-laws (not my direct in-laws, my DH was the product of an interfaith marriage) and I have learned a lot of small things from them. However, I knew what a shiksa, Shabbat, etc. were before ever being married. Defining everything felt pedantic.

Super cute though!

I thought that was the intention of this show. With all the anti-Semitism these days, it’s a good idea to make shows that educate non-Jews about Jews.

Yup, and I think that it’s easy to forget, living in the DMV, that a good portion of the citizens of this country don’t know any Jews or anything about Judaism.

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Anonymous wrote:I love it, binged over the weekend. My mid 40s daughter also loved it. We have no preconceived notions about Jewish people so it's all new to us, plus with the generally low quality of sit coms and rom coms we'll tolerate some stereotyping and stretches of reality.

Overall, A+

Then you must be the intended audience. This felt like a Jewish primer in different places. I have Jewish in-laws (not my direct in-laws, my DH was the product of an interfaith marriage) and I have learned a lot of small things from them. However, I knew what a shiksa, Shabbat, etc. were before ever being married. Defining everything felt pedantic.

Super cute though!

I thought that was the intention of this show. With all the anti-Semitism these days, it’s a good idea to make shows that educate non-Jews about Jews.

But not helpful showing the judgy insular bits, or the "you can't marry a non-Jew" bits. That could backfire. Also, everyone has already pointed out the slur that keeps being used over and over. We're pretty united as a community on what that means.

Slur? You mean shiksa?

I’m a catholic woman married to a Jewish man…so I’m the shiksa. If I refer to myself that way and don’t consider it a slight let alone a slur, then you don’t need to be offended on my behalf.

oh honey.

Yes?

Why do you think you should be offended on my behalf?

I can’t tell you how often the word shiksa has popped up over the last three decades my husband and I have been together. It’s NBD. It’s always been used in a joking way.

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoyed watching it until the very end.

What I really disliked is how ignorant she was of very basic things about Jewish people. Who tf doesn't know prosciutto is pork?

But people really are that clueless.

I love it, but I hope she doesn’t do anything else to her face. Let actresses age naturally! I’m sure she was gorgeous before whatever procedure. Natural wrinkles are always prettier than obvious work.