Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:21     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Super impressed by all the CIA analysts in this thread who identified all the people injuried and killed in the explosions, and matched them to their past connections with Hezbollah. [/quote]

“It appeared eight of the dead belonged to Hezbollah. The group issued a statement confirming at least two members were killed in the pager bombings. One of them was the son of a Hezbollah member in parliament, according to the Hezbollah official who spoke anonymously. The group later issued announcements that six other members were killed Tuesday, though it did not specify how.”
https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-hezbollah-israel-exploding-pagers-8893a09816410959b6fe94aec124461b

Only nine people died - eight were Hezbollah and one was the daughter of a Hezbollah militant. Not feeling particularly sorry about terrorists dying and being maimed, but interesting to know that you are. [/quote]

That's 9. The other 3000?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:20     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Super impressed by all the CIA analysts in this thread who identified all the people injuried and killed in the explosions, and matched them to their past connections with Hezbollah.


Equally impressed that you believe that thousands of innocent civilians are wandering around with Hezbollah-issued pagers in their pockets.


Mildly impressive that you believe that hundreds of coordinated explosions of improvised hidden bombs will avoid injuring bystanders. Not very surprising since you have demonstrated a very weak connection to coherent logical thinking.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:15     Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Casualty number is now over 1200 with three reportedly killed so far.

One of the people killed is a little girl.

https://www.barrons.com/news/girl-in-lebanon-killed-by-exploding-pager-family-5e7eaefc


Well, according to Hizbollah.


The question is whether you consider carrying a pager to be a military operation that must be done away from civilians.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:11     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

If one or both sides want war, or want something (land) enough to fight a war over it, war doesn't end until one side is exterminated or exiled. Endless war is better than genocide though. It becomes a fact of life, like car crashes.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:04     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:Since 10/7 rockets have been shot NONSTOP into Israel from Lebanon. Nonstop. Israel has relocated about 150,000 people out of the north from their homes. This was not out of nowhere. It’s trying to slo them down. People are making it seem as if it was just quiet from
hezbollah and Israel was the aggressor. It’s just false.


And you will soon find out if the pager affair worked as intended.

Imagine if the rocket attacks resume unchanged in a week. Then all you’ve accomplished is new business for the pager makers.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 07:03     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is this not an act of terrorism? From AP News reporting on the exploding pagers:

“ At overwhelmed hospitals, the wounded were rushed in on stretchers, some with missing hands, faces partly blown away or gaping holes at their hips and legs near the pocket area, according to AP photographers. On a main road in central Beirut, a car door was splattered with blood and the windshield cracked”




The line between terrorism and an a wartime act can be pretty thin.


DP. That definition also depends on which side you are on.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:58     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since 10/7 rockets have been shot NONSTOP into Israel from Lebanon. Nonstop. Israel has relocated about 150,000 people out of the north from their homes. This was not out of nowhere. It’s trying to slo them down. People are making it seem as if it was just quiet from
hezbollah and Israel was the aggressor. It’s just false.


There was another way to stop the rockets from Lebanon: ceasefire in Gaza.

That would have resulted in less death for All (including Jews in Israel and the hostages).

Netanyahu is the greatest terrorist of them all.

There are real humans that he is killing. He and others in his party can use dehumanizing language to describe them but it’s simply not true. Real living humans.



Agree, but then you are looking at the big picture which doesn’t fit with Netanyahu’s goal of destroying Gaza. He will never accept a ceasefire. He will bomb and bomb until only rubble is left.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:53     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYTimes is reporting 8 deaths, 2700 injuries with 200 in critical condition in Lebanon. In Syria, pagers also exploded with 7 deaths in one Shia neighborhood in Damascus with strong ties to Hezbollah.

And in a further twist of irony, the identities of Hezbollah members are being exposed in the viral videos of the blast attacks and the injured being carried into hospitals. The identities of Hezbollah members in Lebanon is a closely held secret. So all these viral videos and photos is providing a trove of evidence for identifying them, which will help to capture or eliminate them at some point in the future.

Checkmate.


This is pretty clearly one of the most successful military/intelligence operations in history.

People will be reading about this 100 years from now
.


It is quite astounding.

It's clever but ultimately they killed 9 and now there are 2000 fighters who are really, really pissed off. It's like kicking the hornet's nest.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:29     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:Since 10/7 rockets have been shot NONSTOP into Israel from Lebanon. Nonstop. Israel has relocated about 150,000 people out of the north from their homes. This was not out of nowhere. It’s trying to slo them down. People are making it seem as if it was just quiet from
hezbollah and Israel was the aggressor. It’s just false.


There was another way to stop the rockets from Lebanon: ceasefire in Gaza.

That would have resulted in less death for All (including Jews in Israel and the hostages).

Netanyahu is the greatest terrorist of them all.

There are real humans that he is killing. He and others in his party can use dehumanizing language to describe them but it’s simply not true. Real living humans.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:20     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:How is this not an act of terrorism? From AP News reporting on the exploding pagers:

“ At overwhelmed hospitals, the wounded were rushed in on stretchers, some with missing hands, faces partly blown away or gaping holes at their hips and legs near the pocket area, according to AP photographers. On a main road in central Beirut, a car door was splattered with blood and the windshield cracked”




The line between terrorism and an a wartime act can be pretty thin.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:19     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYTimes is reporting 8 deaths, 2700 injuries with 200 in critical condition in Lebanon. In Syria, pagers also exploded with 7 deaths in one Shia neighborhood in Damascus with strong ties to Hezbollah.

And in a further twist of irony, the identities of Hezbollah members are being exposed in the viral videos of the blast attacks and the injured being carried into hospitals. The identities of Hezbollah members in Lebanon is a closely held secret. So all these viral videos and photos is providing a trove of evidence for identifying them, which will help to capture or eliminate them at some point in the future.

Checkmate.


This is pretty clearly one of the most successful military/intelligence operations in history.

People will be reading about this 100 years from now
.


It is quite astounding.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 06:15     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think all 3000 injured were Hezbollah. I don't think this makes any sense other than wanting war. This kind of stuff is not what people who want peace do. Israel is definitely a country that is guilty of aggression. You can't take everything that's happened since Oct 7th and blame Israel's actions on someone else. At some point, countries are responsible for their own actions. It's a sad and miserable world that condones this bloodshed. It's WW3 is what it wants to be. Not sure why Bibi can't get to a place where he find a way to do something besides hate and kill anyone who isn't a Jew.



Do you realize that they were responding and trying to stop the barrage of rockets that have been coming into Israel by Hezbollah from Lebanon?


I wish they could have distributed these to Hamas. Seems so precise, without hurting the non involved.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 05:54     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:I don't think all 3000 injured were Hezbollah. I don't think this makes any sense other than wanting war. This kind of stuff is not what people who want peace do. Israel is definitely a country that is guilty of aggression. You can't take everything that's happened since Oct 7th and blame Israel's actions on someone else. At some point, countries are responsible for their own actions. It's a sad and miserable world that condones this bloodshed. It's WW3 is what it wants to be. Not sure why Bibi can't get to a place where he find a way to do something besides hate and kill anyone who isn't a Jew.


Do you realize that they were responding and trying to stop the barrage of rockets that have been coming into Israel by Hezbollah from Lebanon?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 05:44     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Since 10/7 rockets have been shot NONSTOP into Israel from Lebanon. Nonstop. Israel has relocated about 150,000 people out of the north from their homes. This was not out of nowhere. It’s trying to slo them down. People are making it seem as if it was just quiet from
hezbollah and Israel was the aggressor. It’s just false.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2024 05:14     Subject: Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous wrote:I don't think all 3000 injured were Hezbollah. I don't think this makes any sense other than wanting war. This kind of stuff is not what people who want peace do. Israel is definitely a country that is guilty of aggression. You can't take everything that's happened since Oct 7th and blame Israel's actions on someone else. At some point, countries are responsible for their own actions. It's a sad and miserable world that condones this bloodshed. It's WW3 is what it wants to be. Not sure why Bibi can't get to a place where he find a way to do something besides hate and kill anyone who isn't a Jew.


Israel can only fight one ground war at a time. The coordinated pager explosion forestalls Hezbollah’s recent saber rattling about escalating in the north. It was a preemptive precision strike. And frankly I think a lot of Lebanese are sleeping a bit better tonight; Hezbollah is despised by many Lebanese.