Anonymous
10/01/2024 10:56
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
BTW, mud tires are horrible in the snow. Absolutely awful.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 10:55
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s an acceptable lower priced vehicle for UMC just like Subaru.
They can be quite expensive
Yup. Jeeps are $$$$$$ for what you get.
You'd have to try really hard to spend over $40K on a Subaru. And, frankly, my Subaru has driven fine on the beach and ORV trails alongside Jeeps. And I've blown past spun out Jeeps in heavy winter conditions.
98% of people driving Jeeps will never rock crawl or go muddin'. They really should just be driving Subarus.
All the SUV's I looked at were at least in the 50's - ford, hyundai, etc... nothing fancy.
Not all jeeps are 4 wheel or awd. The basic sport model is very no thrills.
We have both a Outback and a Wrangler Unlimited. In snow, our Outback sits. Tried to get it out during a deep 30 plus inch snow once. Rocking it turned on every warning light on! With the Jeep, just bounce it off the rev limiter until you stop. Then back up 50 feet and hit it again! My Jeep has 3PMS KO2s so it does really well in snow. Mud tires do not do well in snow on any SUV. When the Outback dies we will be getting a newer Wrangler to replace it. We need something high enough that a deer won't come into the windshield during a 50 mph + collision.
So your wrangler with snow tires does better in the snow than a stock outback? OK
DP
Not snow tires, but rather All-Terrain tires. They’re one step down from Mud Terrain tires, which are the most aggressive tread pattern you can get. Snow tires are their own unique thing with special rubber compounds that will be quickly destroyed on warm dry roads.
But a Jeep or other true 4-wheel-drive platform with All-Terrain tires will absolutely outperform any AWD type car in snow. Zero question of that.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 09:41
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s an acceptable lower priced vehicle for UMC just like Subaru.
They can be quite expensive
Yup. Jeeps are $$$$$$ for what you get.
You'd have to try really hard to spend over $40K on a Subaru. And, frankly, my Subaru has driven fine on the beach and ORV trails alongside Jeeps. And I've blown past spun out Jeeps in heavy winter conditions.
98% of people driving Jeeps will never rock crawl or go muddin'. They really should just be driving Subarus.
All the SUV's I looked at were at least in the 50's - ford, hyundai, etc... nothing fancy.
Not all jeeps are 4 wheel or awd. The basic sport model is very no thrills.
We have both a Outback and a Wrangler Unlimited. In snow, our Outback sits. Tried to get it out during a deep 30 plus inch snow once. Rocking it turned on every warning light on! With the Jeep, just bounce it off the rev limiter until you stop. Then back up 50 feet and hit it again! My Jeep has 3PMS KO2s so it does really well in snow. Mud tires do not do well in snow on any SUV. When the Outback dies we will be getting a newer Wrangler to replace it. We need something high enough that a deer won't come into the windshield during a 50 mph + collision.
So your wrangler with snow tires does better in the snow than a stock outback? OK
Anonymous
10/01/2024 09:41
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Recent work trip and I had a Jeep Gladiator for my rental. Car rental was out of cars, so they “upgraded” me to the Gladiator. It was comfortable enough, had some power, but everything in the car felt cheap. Definitely wouldn’t want one as my daily cheap. Also, the gas mileage was terrible.
PP. Forgot to add most annoying thing about the Jeep rental were the nonstop Jeep waves and I got ducked in a grocery store parking lot.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 09:40
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Recent work trip and I had a Jeep Gladiator for my rental. Car rental was out of cars, so they “upgraded” me to the Gladiator. It was comfortable enough, had some power, but everything in the car felt cheap. Definitely wouldn’t want one as my daily cheap. Also, the gas mileage was terrible.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 08:47
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cause they are “cool”.
No, some people think they look cool and outdoorsy and then make them look cool and outdoorsy. Nope. You look like tools.
Enjoy your Prius!!
NP. Ivy had a Prius and a Jeep Wrangler. Wrangler was more fun, Prius was more practical for my commute.
If I had some extra money, I wouldn’t mind having a Jeep for a weekend car, but today’s Jeeps are too expensive and a little more plush than the one I had. I miss the days of utility Jeeps- stick shift only, no air conditioning, no power windows…etc
Your Jeep had windows?
Yep. Had a hard top.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 05:36
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
A utilitarian stick shift would be fun. I also really like the original Cherokee, which seemed large in the 90's but now looks pretty small compared to modern SUVs.
Not so sure about the Compass and Patriot and that tiny model Jeep has. I'm sure they wanted to diversify and appeal to a wider audience, but did it water down their brand?
Not so sure about the Compass and Patriot and that tiny model Jeep has. I'm sure they wanted to diversify and appeal to a wider audience, but did it water down their brand?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 23:34
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?
Jeep parts are readily available for all models going back to the original CJs. What is a good year depends on your intended use. If you want to off road and don't care as much for creature comforts, I like the CJ-5s and 7s, but decent ones are pricey unless you are adept with the wrench and want to restore. The JL is best for daily, but still very capable. Manual transmission and some corrosion issues due to the partially aluminum body.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:24
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?
2015 - 2019. Would not touch anything after 2019.
I have a 2020, JL and love it. Zero issues.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:23
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?
I would get a new one, used are almost as expensive. But get a 2019 or newer for the newer model.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:21
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cause they are “cool”.
No, some people think they look cool and outdoorsy and then make them look cool and outdoorsy. Nope. You look like tools.
Enjoy your Prius!!
NP. Ivy had a Prius and a Jeep Wrangler. Wrangler was more fun, Prius was more practical for my commute.
If I had some extra money, I wouldn’t mind having a Jeep for a weekend car, but today’s Jeeps are too expensive and a little more plush than the one I had. I miss the days of utility Jeeps- stick shift only, no air conditioning, no power windows…etc
Your Jeep had windows?
Anonymous
09/30/2024 19:10
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cause they are “cool”.
No, some people think they look cool and outdoorsy and then make them look cool and outdoorsy. Nope. You look like tools.
Enjoy your Prius!!
NP. Ivy had a Prius and a Jeep Wrangler. Wrangler was more fun, Prius was more practical for my commute.
If I had some extra money, I wouldn’t mind having a Jeep for a weekend car, but today’s Jeeps are too expensive and a little more plush than the one I had. I miss the days of utility Jeeps- stick shift only, no air conditioning, no power windows…etc
Anonymous
09/30/2024 16:52
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Actually, I think you're wrong about resale value, at least with regard to the Wrangler; I think they hold value fairly well. Personally, I would like a vintage Cherokee from back when they were a box on big wheels.
They all hold resale value.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 16:36
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Enjoy your Prius!!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They're so ugly. I can't believe Mercedes made a Jeep lookalike.
Mercedes G-wagon is very old and was a utility vehicle in other countries. For some reason, someone/Mercedes?? got it in their head to turn it into a high end vehicle. (For all I know, the Jeep was a copy of the G-wagon.)
But regardless of what the Jeep Haters are saying here, there is a huge number of people who love the look of the traditional Jeep, that you can now see in the Jeep Wrangler. And it's an affordable "cool" vehicle.
But it's a stupid one, sorry. It's not environmentally-responsible and has a high rollover risk. Also, like many high-seat vehicles, its hood design puts pedestrians at higher risk of injuries in case of collisions.
I don't care how cool something looks if it's a bad overall choice for safety and pollution considerations. And personally, I don't think Jeeps and similarly-designed vehicles look cool at all.
Anonymous
09/30/2024 16:34
Subject: Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cause they are “cool”.
No, some people think they look cool and outdoorsy and then make them look cool and outdoorsy. Nope. You look like tools.
Enjoy your Prius!!