Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 14:23     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
NP here. I mean, good for them. Every parent has to do whatever they think is best for their kids. Paragon is not MLS Next so I assume the family wanted to move to the MLS Next league and moved over to SYC.


Doesn't make sense to me. SYC historically doesn't have a good relationship with DCU. There are better clubs to join if the goal was to try and get into DCU, mostly ECNL teams.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 14:17     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC



This is what baffles me about SYC. They said they have good players and develop them, supports their players but not able to place any players for 2011 and little to no one in the other age groups with DCU. They have good players and the conclusion that makes any sense is SYC is not advocating for their players and potentially blocking them from being picked up.


Do coaches even have a say? Do they usually reach out to the scout and tell them there's a kid he should look at??? Not just SYC, any club.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 14:06     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:I would agree. However, SYC did not develop these players.


Anonymous wrote:This is an unpopular opinion but if my DS makes an MLS academy or go pro or play in college, we will absolutely credit the clubs he’s been in. They’ve all been instrumental in giving him the development and environment he needed at those times. And I would do it publicly on social media so they’ll feel comfortable taking some credit for his development.



Sure, I don’t think DS clubs will claim that they developed DS. Only that they had a part in his development.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 14:02     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC



This is what baffles me about SYC. They said they have good players and develop them, supports their players but not able to place any players for 2011 and little to no one in the other age groups with DCU. They have good players and the conclusion that makes any sense is SYC is not advocating for their players and potentially blocking them from being picked up.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:44     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:You can check out VDA's IG page, there is a post about it. I am not sure if there is a max number or maybe some are part time players? Regardless, this is a big accomplishment for VDA.


 
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).





5 players from any one club to a professional academy is a lot

Their old team must have been exceptionally dominant last year



I think the max they can take from 1 team is 3



I agree VDA is top level
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:37     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
I would agree. However, SYC did not develop these players.


Anonymous wrote:This is an unpopular opinion but if my DS makes an MLS academy or go pro or play in college, we will absolutely credit the clubs he’s been in. They’ve all been instrumental in giving him the development and environment he needed at those times. And I would do it publicly on social media so they’ll feel comfortable taking some credit for his development.

Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:35     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
You can check out VDA's IG page, there is a post about it. I am not sure if there is a max number or maybe some are part time players? Regardless, this is a big accomplishment for VDA.


 
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).





5 players from any one club to a professional academy is a lot

Their old team must have been exceptionally dominant last year



I think the max they can take from 1 team is 3
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:15     Subject: Re:Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are on it, you’ll know.


Not necessarily. My kid has been "watch listed" meaning they've asked for his schedule and went to his games. But, did not receive an invite to join the club at this point. No idea if he's on the territory list.



In MLS terms, being watch-listed means, "We don't want you, but we'll prevent you from going anywhere else."


That’s what I figured the protected list (which I think also includes kids who left DCU on their own accord) is.

I don’t think it’s legally enforceable to be honest.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:13     Subject: Re:Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are on it, you’ll know.


Not necessarily. My kid has been "watch listed" meaning they've asked for his schedule and went to his games. But, did not receive an invite to join the club at this point. No idea if he's on the territory list.



In MLS terms, being watch-listed means, "We don't want you, but we'll prevent you from going anywhere else."
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:04     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).





NP here. I mean, good for them. Every parent has to do whatever they think is best for their kids. Paragon is not MLS Next so I assume the family wanted to move to the MLS Next league and moved over to SYC.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 12:58     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
This is an unpopular opinion but if my DS makes an MLS academy or go pro or play in college, we will absolutely credit the clubs he’s been in. They’ve all been instrumental in giving him the development and environment he needed at those times. And I would do it publicly on social media so they’ll feel comfortable taking some credit for his development.

Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 12:55     Subject: Re:Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:If you are on it, you’ll know.


Not necessarily. My kid has been "watch listed" meaning they've asked for his schedule and went to his games. But, did not receive an invite to join the club at this point. No idea if he's on the territory list.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 12:44     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).





5 players from any one club to a professional academy is a lot

Their old team must have been exceptionally dominant last year



I think the max they can take from 1 team is 3
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 12:40     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Anonymous wrote:Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).





5 players from any one club to a professional academy is a lot

Their old team must have been exceptionally dominant last year
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 12:29     Subject: Scouts at MLSNext games
Honestly speaking, I would pick any other club even an ECNL club over SYC.

This season, DCU picked up the following for their 2011 group. I am sure there were more but these are the ones I know.
5 from VDA to DCU
2 from Arlington to DCU
1 from Alexandria to DCU
0 from SYC




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SYC will punish players who has any interest in leaving for DCU.

Firsthand experience when our DC showed interest in DCU our coach started giving him the cold shoulder. We have another teammate who has a lot of interest in moving to DCU but the coach never advocated for him. His parents were the one who reached out to DCU for more information.

Last week, SYC promoted a player who moved to Philly Union. The irony of that is SYC did not develop that player. The player came to SYC last season and has been playing with a different club prior. SYC only uses the move to promote themselves. Said again and again, SYC is not here to develop players. They are in the business of making money.




Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.



Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.


What club was the kid that move to Philly at before they were at SYC?


I think the family was with Paragon.


Gotcha, seems to be the family used SYC to get exposure on the MLNext platform.

Which admittedly, we have do so as well for DS (not at SYC tho).