Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 17:31     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:
Musk endorsed Trump so that Trump would specifically say that EVs are okay. He got more traffic on X than ever before. So more publicity, more sales. He did not give Trump any money (yet). So Elon gets something out of this.

The second thing is that Biden has dumped on Elon every which way so Elon is not thrilled to endorse the Ds. The first thing Biden did when he got into office was to invite the CEO's of car companies for a meeting. Except he did not invite Musk (even though Musk is an American car company) because Musk does not run a union shop. That was the reason and Musk has not forgotten.

No other company is profiting on their EVs (they sell them at a loss so far). Only Tesla is selling at a profit. Why? Because mass production matters.

Finally, Musk was first into the EV market. There would be no EV market without Musk and Tesla. He said at the beginning that he wanted other companies to join him and they have so that's good.

Tesla builds a good car and other companies are now adopting the Tesla charging standard. Tesla has the biggest charging network. Musk can be as crazy as he wants to be. Lots of people do not buy a car based on who started the company. A lot of Americans work for Tesla and have created an EV when no one else had done it before. The company is way more than just Elon. Many talented engineers and workers there.

Do you remember when people gave other people sh*t for buying a Prius (back in the day)? Also people buy I phones even though Apple uses slave labor in China. Other companies just hide their dirty laundry while Elon puts himself out there.


Wrong. Elon founded a super pac in April or May and has beeen funneling money into the fund for months. He also has encouraged some of his tech bros to fund the Trump SuperPac. Elon is currently under investigation by two different state AG offices for fraud in the use of those super packs. Apparently he ask people donating for a lot of information telling them that he is registering them to vote, but he only submits the information for those who live in specific zip codes.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 17:21     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

It’s pretty weak to say you don’t like the CEO so you’re not supporting a company that makes EV vehicles and makes a lot of them in the US. Pathetic really.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 17:13     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Their sales are down significantly!

Stock is also significantly down for the year. Yes, it got a bump today, I imagine because of last night’s interview, but the stock is at $204 from $276

The shareholders should be so angry with him. He’s single-handedly alienating a huge portion of its customer base and destroying the brand.

Yep. I dumped my shares 1.5 years ago. I made a little profit, but I don’t like chaos mingling with my money, and that’s what owning Tesla is with Elon creating the chaos.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 16:55     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

I had a Tesla as a rental and loved driving it. I would never buy a Tesla now because of Elon.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:38     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If Elon had had to run as a union shop (like dinosaur Biden wanted and would like), there would probably be no Tesla EV. Look what has happened to other US car manufacturers.

Biden is too old to understand how innovation happens.

Yea, instead they should follow Elon's management style and fire people who have the know how to keep the lights on.

Funny how you seem anti-union when one union supports Trump. You should tell those people that unions aren't good, and that Trump doesn't support them.


One union supports Trump. One? Which one is it?

Police union.

Apparently, it's fine for police to have unions but not auto workers.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:36     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:
If Elon had had to run as a union shop (like dinosaur Biden wanted and would like), there would probably be no Tesla EV. Look what has happened to other US car manufacturers.

Biden is too old to understand how innovation happens.

True, the UAW doesn't like Trump or Elon. They try to intimidate workers.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/uaw-files-labor-charges-against-141622265.html

The United Auto Workers Union said on Tuesday it has filed complaints with the National Labor Relations Board against Donald Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk over attempts to threaten and intimidate workers.

"You're the greatest cutter," Trump said to Musk during Monday's conversation, complimenting the CEO's ability to cut costs by saying he would not tolerate workers going on strike. "I mean, I look at what you do. You walk in, you just say: 'You want to quit?' They go on strike - I won't mention the name of the company - but they go on strike. And you say: 'That's okay, you're all gone.'"

Under federal law, workers cannot be fired for going on strike, and threatening to do so is illegal under the National Labor Relations Act, the UAW said in a statement.


Tell me how Trump cares about workers?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:14     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Who knows if we can help your family to survive climate change by getting more people to buy solar panels and EVs? Elon is looking at the long game.


No one looking for climate change solutions would support a climate change denial idiot like trump. Sorry but no.


Elon is not a climate change denier. That much is known. I think Trump will support whatever gets him elected at this point. He's for sale. Trump is an idiot, but whose idiot is he?


Elon is trying to get an idiot in charge of this country and with power of all of our families. He is going to get massive push back from the voters over it as he should. He is backing a destructive threat.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:09     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?


Anonymous wrote:


Who knows if we can help your family to survive climate change by getting more people to buy solar panels and EVs? Elon is looking at the long game.


No one looking for climate change solutions would support a climate change denial idiot like trump. Sorry but no.


Elon is not a climate change denier. That much is known. I think Trump will support whatever gets him elected at this point. He's for sale. Trump is an idiot, but whose idiot is he?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:05     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:^ And you are probably invested in Tesla through an index fund or through your retirement system. You'd better ask them to divest if you hate Elon.


If Elon manages to drive off his customer base with his nonsense, they wont want to invest in the company.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:05     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:

If Elon had had to run as a union shop (like dinosaur Biden wanted and would like), there would probably be no Tesla EV. Look what has happened to other US car manufacturers.

Biden is too old to understand how innovation happens.

Yea, instead they should follow Elon's management style and fire people who have the know how to keep the lights on.

Funny how you seem anti-union when one union supports Trump. You should tell those people that unions aren't good, and that Trump doesn't support them.


One union supports Trump. One? Which one is it?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:03     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

^ And you are probably invested in Tesla through an index fund or through your retirement system. You'd better ask them to divest if you hate Elon.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:02     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Musk endorsed Trump so that Trump would specifically say that EVs are okay. He got more traffic on X than ever before. So more publicity, more sales. He did not give Trump any money (yet). So Elon gets something out of this.

The second thing is that Biden has dumped on Elon every which way so Elon is not thrilled to endorse the Ds. The first thing Biden did when he got into office was to invite the CEO's of car companies for a meeting. Except he did not invite Musk (even though Musk is an American car company) because Musk does not run a union shop. That was the reason and Musk has not forgotten.

No other company is profiting on their EVs (they sell them at a loss so far). Only Tesla is selling at a profit. Why? Because mass production matters.

Finally, Musk was first into the EV market. There would be no EV market without Musk and Tesla. He said at the beginning that he wanted other companies to join him and they have so that's good.

Tesla builds a good car and other companies are now adopting the Tesla charging standard. Tesla has the biggest charging network. Musk can be as crazy as he wants to be. Lots of people do not buy a car based on who started the company. A lot of Americans work for Tesla and have created an EV when no one else had done it before. The company is way more than just Elon. Many talented engineers and workers there.

Do you remember when people gave other people sh*t for buying a Prius (back in the day)? Also people buy I phones even though Apple uses slave labor in China. Other companies just hide their dirty laundry while Elon puts himself out there.



if Elon thinks the best way to sell his cars is to support trump then that is what he thinks. I would never buy one because I refuse to support a brand that is going to turn around and support a candidate that is seriously detrimental to my family. A lot of other customers are saying the same thig but who knows?


Who knows if we can help your family to survive climate change by getting more people to buy solar panels and EVs? Elon is looking at the long game.


No one looking for climate change solutions would support a climate change denial idiot like trump. Sorry but no.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 15:01     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

^ When you buy the stock, you are buying into the solar and battery parts of the company (not just the car part). So if you buy solar panels or a power wall from Tesla, you are supporting Tesla. Just in case you are thinking about that.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 14:59     Subject: Re:Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?


Anonymous wrote:

Musk endorsed Trump so that Trump would specifically say that EVs are okay. He got more traffic on X than ever before. So more publicity, more sales. He did not give Trump any money (yet). So Elon gets something out of this.

The second thing is that Biden has dumped on Elon every which way so Elon is not thrilled to endorse the Ds. The first thing Biden did when he got into office was to invite the CEO's of car companies for a meeting. Except he did not invite Musk (even though Musk is an American car company) because Musk does not run a union shop. That was the reason and Musk has not forgotten.

No other company is profiting on their EVs (they sell them at a loss so far). Only Tesla is selling at a profit. Why? Because mass production matters.

Finally, Musk was first into the EV market. There would be no EV market without Musk and Tesla. He said at the beginning that he wanted other companies to join him and they have so that's good.

Tesla builds a good car and other companies are now adopting the Tesla charging standard. Tesla has the biggest charging network. Musk can be as crazy as he wants to be. Lots of people do not buy a car based on who started the company. A lot of Americans work for Tesla and have created an EV when no one else had done it before. The company is way more than just Elon. Many talented engineers and workers there.

Do you remember when people gave other people sh*t for buying a Prius (back in the day)? Also people buy I phones even though Apple uses slave labor in China. Other companies just hide their dirty laundry while Elon puts himself out there.



if Elon thinks the best way to sell his cars is to support trump then that is what he thinks. I would never buy one because I refuse to support a brand that is going to turn around and support a candidate that is seriously detrimental to my family. A lot of other customers are saying the same thig but who knows?


Who knows if we can help your family to survive climate change by getting more people to buy solar panels and EVs? Elon is looking at the long game.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 14:48     Subject: Why would anyone who dislikes Trump drive a Tesla?

Anonymous wrote:
Musk endorsed Trump so that Trump would specifically say that EVs are okay. He got more traffic on X than ever before. So more publicity, more sales. He did not give Trump any money (yet). So Elon gets something out of this.

The second thing is that Biden has dumped on Elon every which way so Elon is not thrilled to endorse the Ds. The first thing Biden did when he got into office was to invite the CEO's of car companies for a meeting. Except he did not invite Musk (even though Musk is an American car company) because Musk does not run a union shop. That was the reason and Musk has not forgotten.

No other company is profiting on their EVs (they sell them at a loss so far). Only Tesla is selling at a profit. Why? Because mass production matters.

Finally, Musk was first into the EV market. There would be no EV market without Musk and Tesla. He said at the beginning that he wanted other companies to join him and they have so that's good.

Tesla builds a good car and other companies are now adopting the Tesla charging standard. Tesla has the biggest charging network. Musk can be as crazy as he wants to be. Lots of people do not buy a car based on who started the company. A lot of Americans work for Tesla and have created an EV when no one else had done it before. The company is way more than just Elon. Many talented engineers and workers there.

Do you remember when people gave other people sh*t for buying a Prius (back in the day)? Also people buy I phones even though Apple uses slave labor in China. Other companies just hide their dirty laundry while Elon puts himself out there.



if Elon thinks the best way to sell his cars is to support trump then that is what he thinks. I would never buy one because I refuse to support a brand that is going to turn around and support a candidate that is seriously detrimental to my family. A lot of other customers are saying the same thig but who knows?