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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

Completely. Most Gen Zs on my team can't get it together for a 9 am meeting at the desk in their bedroom. I kid you not. One of them asked my boss if the company would pay to Uber her to and from the office so she didn't have to take public transportation in for a week of in person meetings starting at 10 am. By enabling Gen X boss said yes, of course. So many millennials got scr*wed by the financial crisis and had to hustle for years and now we want some flexibility because we have families and that's a crime even though I always worked at companies where there were double standards for parents but on top of that we have to deal with newly child free Gen Xers giving us a hard time and Gen Zers who are incredibly entitled and think it's normal to get on 9 am zoom meetings unshowered and in PJs.

Millennials created the "Catch 22". I say that as in Boomer times once you hit management companies very rigid, in office every day in suit working 10-12 hours a day and productivity was king like a sweat shop. Did not care you had a kid, sick mom, kid in school play, snowstorm, Mom died etc. You just pumped out work. To do this Men need a SAHM wife to keep things running. And people had 3-4 kids back in the 1970s and 1980s.

They had to pay enough on a single salary a person could support a stay at home spouse and a mortgage and pay for everything. And my job the women if dual income either had a stay at home husband or with two high incomes could live near office, have nannies and maids run everything easy. Dual income couples were fabulously wealthy in 1994. My SVP Boss made 350K in 1994 and his SVP wife made 350K a year in 1994. They had two nannies, maid, lawn service, vacation home, pied a tier NYC. Today you need two incomes to equal one income.

How did millennials “create” this situation?

My Boomer and Silent Generation bosses were very strict. In office every day in a suit and work 10-12 hours do your time and by 40 your will have that big corner office and a big house. Millennials entered workforce around 2002 and over last 22 years were successful in changing the workplace to what it is today. Ironically, if made life easier for Boomers and Gen X but harder from Millennials as they older bosses are hanging on forever so hard to move up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

Completely. Most Gen Zs on my team can't get it together for a 9 am meeting at the desk in their bedroom. I kid you not. One of them asked my boss if the company would pay to Uber her to and from the office so she didn't have to take public transportation in for a week of in person meetings starting at 10 am. By enabling Gen X boss said yes, of course. So many millennials got scr*wed by the financial crisis and had to hustle for years and now we want some flexibility because we have families and that's a crime even though I always worked at companies where there were double standards for parents but on top of that we have to deal with newly child free Gen Xers giving us a hard time and Gen Zers who are incredibly entitled and think it's normal to get on 9 am zoom meetings unshowered and in PJs.

Millennials created the "Catch 22". I say that as in Boomer times once you hit management companies very rigid, in office every day in suit working 10-12 hours a day and productivity was king like a sweat shop. Did not care you had a kid, sick mom, kid in school play, snowstorm, Mom died etc. You just pumped out work. To do this Men need a SAHM wife to keep things running. And people had 3-4 kids back in the 1970s and 1980s.

They had to pay enough on a single salary a person could support a stay at home spouse and a mortgage and pay for everything. And my job the women if dual income either had a stay at home husband or with two high incomes could live near office, have nannies and maids run everything easy. Dual income couples were fabulously wealthy in 1994. My SVP Boss made 350K in 1994 and his SVP wife made 350K a year in 1994. They had two nannies, maid, lawn service, vacation home, pied a tier NYC. Today you need two incomes to equal one income.

How did millennials “create” this situation?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

Completely. Most Gen Zs on my team can't get it together for a 9 am meeting at the desk in their bedroom. I kid you not. One of them asked my boss if the company would pay to Uber her to and from the office so she didn't have to take public transportation in for a week of in person meetings starting at 10 am. By enabling Gen X boss said yes, of course. So many millennials got scr*wed by the financial crisis and had to hustle for years and now we want some flexibility because we have families and that's a crime even though I always worked at companies where there were double standards for parents but on top of that we have to deal with newly child free Gen Xers giving us a hard time and Gen Zers who are incredibly entitled and think it's normal to get on 9 am zoom meetings unshowered and in PJs.

Millennials created the "Catch 22". I say that as in Boomer times once you hit management companies very rigid, in office every day in suit working 10-12 hours a day and productivity was king like a sweat shop. Did not care you had a kid, sick mom, kid in school play, snowstorm, Mom died etc. You just pumped out work. To do this Men need a SAHM wife to keep things running. And people had 3-4 kids back in the 1970s and 1980s.

They had to pay enough on a single salary a person could support a stay at home spouse and a mortgage and pay for everything. And my job the women if dual income either had a stay at home husband or with two high incomes could live near office, have nannies and maids run everything easy. Dual income couples were fabulously wealthy in 1994. My SVP Boss made 350K in 1994 and his SVP wife made 350K a year in 1994. They had two nannies, maid, lawn service, vacation home, pied a tier NYC. Today you need two incomes to equal one income.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

Completely. Most Gen Zs on my team can't get it together for a 9 am meeting at the desk in their bedroom. I kid you not. One of them asked my boss if the company would pay to Uber her to and from the office so she didn't have to take public transportation in for a week of in person meetings starting at 10 am. By enabling Gen X boss said yes, of course. So many millennials got scr*wed by the financial crisis and had to hustle for years and now we want some flexibility because we have families and that's a crime even though I always worked at companies where there were double standards for parents but on top of that we have to deal with newly child free Gen Xers giving us a hard time and Gen Zers who are incredibly entitled and think it's normal to get on 9 am zoom meetings unshowered and in PJs.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

Except it’s heading the other way with more RTO…so what world are you describing?

It’s not. Most data show RTO is stagnating.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

Except it’s heading the other way with more RTO…so what world are you describing?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

Completely. Most Gen Zs on my team can't get it together for a 9 am meeting at the desk in their bedroom. I kid you not. One of them asked my boss if the company would pay to Uber her to and from the office so she didn't have to take public transportation in for a week of in person meetings starting at 10 am. By enabling Gen X boss said yes, of course. So many millennials got scr*wed by the financial crisis and had to hustle for years and now we want some flexibility because we have families and that's a crime even though I always worked at companies where there were double standards for parents but on top of that we have to deal with newly child free Gen Xers giving us a hard time and Gen Zers who are incredibly entitled and think it's normal to get on 9 am zoom meetings unshowered and in PJs.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

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Anonymous wrote:I’m like the only person excited to go back to the office.

For all the hate on GenZ, they love to go to the office.

Don't generalize. The Gen z in our office are our strongest wfh supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

The could send you spread sheets in Colorado, but they could pay less to send spreadsheet to India or even the UK or EU. WFH is not great for people who expect HCOL salaries

The time differences, language and cultural are truly problematic.

If you require any discussion or interaction about the spreadsheets then you need someone on US soil.

I didn't see anyone worried about cultural differences when it came to importing Filipinas to teach special ed kids, or to provide elder care, in a couple of recent threads. Only your cushy white collar WFH jobs require a genuine American.

Those are the opposite of WFH jobs. If imported Filipinas are just as good, they’ll come for your 5-day in-office job too.

Right, so we're going to have a society made up of super-important WFH people on mountaintops making $700k+ (every DCUMer), foreign people working for Peanuts doing the actual labor, and vast masses of idle Americans receiving welfare. Let's hope your children all have IQs over 130 or they're screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

The could send you spread sheets in Colorado, but they could pay less to send spreadsheet to India or even the UK or EU. WFH is not great for people who expect HCOL salaries

The time differences, language and cultural are truly problematic.

If you require any discussion or interaction about the spreadsheets then you need someone on US soil.

I didn't see anyone worried about cultural differences when it came to importing Filipinas to teach special ed kids, or to provide elder care, in a couple of recent threads. Only your cushy white collar WFH jobs require a genuine American.

Those are the opposite of WFH jobs. If imported Filipinas are just as good, they’ll come for your 5-day in-office job too.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

The could send you spread sheets in Colorado, but they could pay less to send spreadsheet to India or even the UK or EU. WFH is not great for people who expect HCOL salaries

The time differences, language and cultural are truly problematic.

If you require any discussion or interaction about the spreadsheets then you need someone on US soil.

I didn't see anyone worried about cultural differences when it came to importing Filipinas to teach special ed kids, or to provide elder care, in a couple of recent threads. Only your cushy white collar WFH jobs require a genuine American.

Those are the opposite of WFH jobs. If imported Filipinas are just as good, they’ll come for your 5-day in-office job too.

Right, so we're going to have a society made up of super-important WFH people on mountaintops making $700k+ (every DCUMer), foreign people working for Peanuts doing the actual labor, and vast masses of idle Americans receiving welfare. Let's hope your children all have IQs over 130 or they're screwed.

Or maybe there’s a reason all the professional jobs haven’t been replaced with cheap foreign labor.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

The could send you spread sheets in Colorado, but they could pay less to send spreadsheet to India or even the UK or EU. WFH is not great for people who expect HCOL salaries

The time differences, language and cultural are truly problematic.

If you require any discussion or interaction about the spreadsheets then you need someone on US soil.

I didn't see anyone worried about cultural differences when it came to importing Filipinas to teach special ed kids, or to provide elder care, in a couple of recent threads. Only your cushy white collar WFH jobs require a genuine American.

Those are the opposite of WFH jobs. If imported Filipinas are just as good, they’ll come for your 5-day in-office job too.

Right, so we're going to have a society made up of super-important WFH people on mountaintops making $700k+ (every DCUMer), foreign people working for Peanuts doing the actual labor, and vast masses of idle Americans receiving welfare. Let's hope your children all have IQs over 130 or they're screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait till fully remote becomes an optional policy for all and everybody takes it

You’ll see me send spreadsheets from my mountain cabin in Colorado and will never again step foot in DC save if the president needs me

The could send you spread sheets in Colorado, but they could pay less to send spreadsheet to India or even the UK or EU. WFH is not great for people who expect HCOL salaries

The time differences, language and cultural are truly problematic.

If you require any discussion or interaction about the spreadsheets then you need someone on US soil.

I didn't see anyone worried about cultural differences when it came to importing Filipinas to teach special ed kids, or to provide elder care, in a couple of recent threads. Only your cushy white collar WFH jobs require a genuine American.