Anonymous wrote:Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, JD Vance, Trump, Rebekah Mercer, Paul Manafort - sure they’ve vile…. But they are just super weird. The people at the senior level/with power are really strange and all the people below them are vapid sycophants.

It’s one reason people see shades of Nazis in the movement.

I also see shades of the Handmaid's Tale in some of what they say. Super creepy and weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate they are trying something new, the Project 2025 stuff doesn't seem to be getting people's attention. I think many are now numb to warnings of dictatorship.

I don't know if it will work and I can see it putting some off

Um largely indifferent

“The project 2025 stuff” is absolutely getting people’s attention.

Yeah it’s been phenomenally successful- that’s why Trump is in such a panic about it and pretending he doesn’t know what it’s about.

I find myself so curious about why they made the 900 page project 2025 planning document available for public consumption. Like, what were they thinking?

They’re very arrogant and self absorbed.

+1 - The GOP long ago gave up the idea of a two party system where you compromise to achieve positive outcomes for the population at large. They are interested in power and have leveraged every method to get it. And it's worked a lot of the time. And they've mistaken procedural success for popular success. They believe their ideas are a lot more mainstream and successful than they actually are.

Anonymous wrote:It actually makes me laugh that *Democrats* would label anyone else "weird." I mean, seriously?

Republicans have only won the popular vote in a Presidential election once in the (almost) last quarter century (2004). I don't think your weirdness meter is working.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know... when I think of "weird," this is more or less what comes to mind:

It really is astounding how revealing the criticism is of her little catch phrase. It’s not as erudite or profound as she thinks it is, but it’s also not gibberish. And, it is right up the anti-DEI alley. She’s saying she is optimistic and sees the future and doesn’t think it needs to be defined by the bad things of the past.

Make fun of it all you want, but you look like like a dumbass when you say it is word soup.

Are you unfamiliar with a "stump speech"? ("a speech repeatedly delivered by a politician during their campaign for election or re-election to public office") She isn't saying this all throughout one speech. It's her catch phrase, she says it in a lot of speeches.

She's saying -- focus on the future, don't stay burdened by the past. It's actually a very Republican concept isn't it? No need for DEI right?

No it isn't.

Your catch phrase is literally buried in the past.

"Make America Great Again"

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know... when I think of "weird," this is more or less what comes to mind:

It really is astounding how revealing the criticism is of her little catch phrase. It’s not as erudite or profound as she thinks it is, but it’s also not gibberish. And, it is right up the anti-DEI alley. She’s saying she is optimistic and sees the future and doesn’t think it needs to be defined by the bad things of the past.

Make fun of it all you want, but you look like like a dumbass when you say it is word soup.

Are you unfamiliar with a "stump speech"? ("a speech repeatedly delivered by a politician during their campaign for election or re-election to public office") She isn't saying this all throughout one speech. It's her catch phrase, she says it in a lot of speeches.

She's saying -- focus on the future, don't stay burdened by the past. It's actually a very Republican concept isn't it? No need for DEI right?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if weird resonates but it’s an improvement on the extreme, apoplectic language both parties have using - “ not going to have a country” and “end of democracy”

It's not an improvement. Americans are going to ignore "weird" as well. They just don't care about it. They're interested in the top of the ticket and the policies.

If Project 2025 reflects Trump's future policies, then everything written by former Obama and Biden officials, as well as every Democrat think tank, must be attributed to Harris.

You ... know JD Vance wrote the forward to the Project 2025 book, right? That's not even arms-length distance. And if Trump didn't know that was coming out when he selected him to be his right hand man -- good lord, how incompetent is that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-foreword-in-project-2025-leaders-book-raises-eyebrows/ar-BB1qySnz

Nice goalpost shifting AND sidestep there. Now it's Vance instead of Trump (and by the way, has Vance come out and said that he's going to adopt Project 2025 if he and Trump win?).

Also, I guess you agree that everything that is written by a Democrat think tank is Harris' policy if she (or her soon to be VP pick) have their name attached to it in any way, shape, or form - right?

Nice deflection. The Project 2025 thing isn't making positive news for you guys right now. It's just going to get worse since it's clearly an identified sore spot.

Actually it's not. Only on DCUM is it. Biden and other Democrat leaders pushed the Project 2025 narrative a few weeks ago. It's out of the news cycle.

Actually, I see and hear that it is catching on and spreading. That’s what happens when you not only say the quiet part out loud, you share it widely in a 900 page manifesto.

The right was hoping for a “contract with America” moment and they have walked into a “ deplorables” moment.

I'm seeing Project 2025 a lot in my Facebook groups for old ladies like me. The groups are generally non-political. SOmeone will post something alarming they read about Project 2025 and a sort-of Trump supporter (not a die hard MAGA) will comment that you shouldn't believe everything you read, and a lot of Project 2025 has been taking out of context, and that they don't support everything in it... then a discussion gets started about what exactly Project 2025 is, who the Heritage Foundation is, how they influence the Republican platform. And people start doing direct screen shots of the relevant pages of Project 2025 and WOW a lot of people (generally non-political) are aghast. They are taken aback and think it is troubling. These aren't MAGA diehards but they are generally conservative/Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire Dem party is weird

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The democratic convention could make money by advertising as a freak show and letting paying customers do a walkthrough.

Ha ha. The GOP is not happy about the weird thing. Because they know it resonates with people. Vance and Trump are total weirdos!

Walz was a genius for coming up with this language. It’s clear and resonates widely. As has been pointed out, the “threat to democracy” and “soul of the nation” language was too abstract for many Americans. But it’s indisputable that these two guys are weird and have lots of weird ideas. And who wants to vote for weirdos?

Trump and Vance are going to offer SO much material over the next few months to really keep this burning. Not sure how they plan to get the youth vote to turn out for a really old, weird guy.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire Dem party is weird

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The democratic convention could make money by advertising as a freak show and letting paying customers do a walkthrough.

Ha ha. The GOP is not happy about the weird thing. Because they know it resonates with people. Vance and Trump are total weirdos!

Walz was a genius for coming up with this language. It’s clear and resonates widely. As has been pointed out, the “threat to democracy” and “soul of the nation” language was too abstract for many Americans. But it’s indisputable that these two guys are weird and have lots of weird ideas. And who wants to vote for weirdos?

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, JD Vance, Trump, Rebekah Mercer, Paul Manafort - sure they’ve vile…. But they are just super weird. The people at the senior level/with power are really strange and all the people below them are vapid sycophants.

It’s one reason people see shades of Nazis in the movement.

That’s actually a terrifying connection. You’re not completely wrong.

Thiel and Vance’s thing with J.R.R Tolkien is also pretty weird.
Reminds name of the kkk’s weird little names like realms, grand dragons, goblins, furies.
Certain flavors sure love their cosplay.

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Thanks. They are doing an excellent job directly confronting the absolute nonsense that comes out of the Fanta-colored man's orifices.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if weird resonates but it’s an improvement on the extreme, apoplectic language both parties have using - “ not going to have a country” and “end of democracy”

It's not an improvement. Americans are going to ignore "weird" as well. They just don't care about it. They're interested in the top of the ticket and the policies.

If Project 2025 reflects Trump's future policies, then everything written by former Obama and Biden officials, as well as every Democrat think tank, must be attributed to Harris.

You ... know JD Vance wrote the forward to the Project 2025 book, right? That's not even arms-length distance. And if Trump didn't know that was coming out when he selected him to be his right hand man -- good lord, how incompetent is that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-foreword-in-project-2025-leaders-book-raises-eyebrows/ar-BB1qySnz

Nice goalpost shifting AND sidestep there. Now it's Vance instead of Trump (and by the way, has Vance come out and said that he's going to adopt Project 2025 if he and Trump win?).

Also, I guess you agree that everything that is written by a Democrat think tank is Harris' policy if she (or her soon to be VP pick) have their name attached to it in any way, shape, or form - right?

Nice deflection. The Project 2025 thing isn't making positive news for you guys right now. It's just going to get worse since it's clearly an identified sore spot.

Actually it's not. Only on DCUM is it. Biden and other Democrat leaders pushed the Project 2025 narrative a few weeks ago. It's out of the news cycle.

Actually, I see and hear that it is catching on and spreading. That’s what happens when you not only say the quiet part out loud, you share it widely in a 900 page manifesto.

The right was hoping for a “contract with America” moment and they have walked into a “ deplorables” moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if weird resonates but it’s an improvement on the extreme, apoplectic language both parties have using - “ not going to have a country” and “end of democracy”

It's not an improvement. Americans are going to ignore "weird" as well. They just don't care about it. They're interested in the top of the ticket and the policies.

If Project 2025 reflects Trump's future policies, then everything written by former Obama and Biden officials, as well as every Democrat think tank, must be attributed to Harris.

You ... know JD Vance wrote the forward to the Project 2025 book, right? That's not even arms-length distance. And if Trump didn't know that was coming out when he selected him to be his right hand man -- good lord, how incompetent is that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-foreword-in-project-2025-leaders-book-raises-eyebrows/ar-BB1qySnz

Nice goalpost shifting AND sidestep there. Now it's Vance instead of Trump (and by the way, has Vance come out and said that he's going to adopt Project 2025 if he and Trump win?).

Also, I guess you agree that everything that is written by a Democrat think tank is Harris' policy if she (or her soon to be VP pick) have their name attached to it in any way, shape, or form - right?

Nice deflection. The Project 2025 thing isn't making positive news for you guys right now. It's just going to get worse since it's clearly an identified sore spot.

Actually it's not. Only on DCUM is it. Biden and other Democrat leaders pushed the Project 2025 narrative a few weeks ago. It's out of the news cycle.

Nope. People running focus groups of undecided voters report that they bring up Project 2025 without being asked about it.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire Dem party is weird

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The democratic convention could make money by advertising as a freak show and letting paying customers do a walkthrough.

Ha ha. The GOP is not happy about the weird thing. Because they know it resonates with people. Vance and Trump are total weirdos!

Walz was a genius for coming up with this language. It’s clear and resonates widely. As has been pointed out, the “threat to democracy” and “soul of the nation” language was too abstract for many Americans. But it’s indisputable that these two guys are weird and have lots of weird ideas. And who wants to vote for weirdos?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if weird resonates but it’s an improvement on the extreme, apoplectic language both parties have using - “ not going to have a country” and “end of democracy”

It's not an improvement. Americans are going to ignore "weird" as well. They just don't care about it. They're interested in the top of the ticket and the policies.

If Project 2025 reflects Trump's future policies, then everything written by former Obama and Biden officials, as well as every Democrat think tank, must be attributed to Harris.

You ... know JD Vance wrote the forward to the Project 2025 book, right? That's not even arms-length distance. And if Trump didn't know that was coming out when he selected him to be his right hand man -- good lord, how incompetent is that?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jd-vance-foreword-in-project-2025-leaders-book-raises-eyebrows/ar-BB1qySnz

Nice goalpost shifting AND sidestep there. Now it's Vance instead of Trump (and by the way, has Vance come out and said that he's going to adopt Project 2025 if he and Trump win?).

Also, I guess you agree that everything that is written by a Democrat think tank is Harris' policy if she (or her soon to be VP pick) have their name attached to it in any way, shape, or form - right?

Nice deflection. The Project 2025 thing isn't making positive news for you guys right now. It's just going to get worse since it's clearly an identified sore spot.

Actually it's not. Only on DCUM is it. Biden and other Democrat leaders pushed the Project 2025 narrative a few weeks ago. It's out of the news cycle.

Wishful thinking. Google “Project 2025” and hit the news tab.