Anonymous wrote:Look into this:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/phentermine-and-topiramate-oral-route/precautions/drg-20075700?p=1


Both drugs have been around for 30+ years. She doesn't have much weight to lose, and this is very effective. She might be eating well, but she is likely consuming more calories than her body needs. I had the same issue until I figured out just how slow my metabolism is (genetic), and how calorie dense many healthy foods are.

They’ve been around for 30 years, but haven’t been used by non-diabetic 18 year olds for their whole adult lives. Doctors don’t even know the full extent of the underlying mechanisms of how they work. This is absurd and dangerous for an 18 year old girl who I am sure is beautiful at size 8.

I think these drugs are a lifesaver for obese and morbidly obese folks.

Your daughter is neither.

I'd also reconsider the pat on the back you give yourself for not discussing her weight. Why does she not feel comfortable in her (perfectly normal) body? Why haven't you instilled a high level of self esteem for her weight? Sorry, but I think you've failed somewhere if she feels this way and is specifically asking your advice on this.

So no, I wouldn't recommend this drug for a perfectly normal teen. And I question the parenting of anyone who would.

At her age, I would help her find a trainer who can teach her strength training and give her some basics on nutrition and macros.

Anonymous wrote:I'd help her get a personal trainer and try that for 6 months first. Is she about to start college? If so, that would be even more helpful to try to avoid gaining weight as a freshman. I have a similar build and was always able to up the exercise and stay slim until I hit 45. Now absolutely nothing has worked, and my numbers were all bordering on unhealthy. I have gone on a very low dose of ozempic and got my weight back down some (down to 152). I intend to stay on it until I get to 135. I had never been that overweight, and it was even impacting my ability to work out (was starting to get arthritis and issues in my knees and ankles). I'd save the ozempic until she has exhausted everything else.

It's you. Hi. You're the problem. It's you.

Stop taking drugs for a vanity purpose when people who need them can't get them. These drugs are meant for those with A1C/diabetes issues and severe weight issues. Not because you hit pre menopause and aren't feeling "slim" any more.

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

Because even if they are (and they are not) they are not and never will be as dangerous as being morbidly obese. Stop propageting lies and people wouldn't have to correct you every day.

What is it with you people????? You simply can't fathom that some of us had no other options? You'd rather see us die from obesity-related illnesses than see us get healthy? Why does it bother you so much if you are not obese and have no plans of taking these drugs? Because you are NOT actually concerned for us. So what is driving you to daily post this inaccurate information?

The daughter of a friend who is an rn in her 20s went on on of these meds for weight loss, starting at a healthy but not thin weight. Completely normal.
She is now emaciated and I did not even know who she was at a recent event. Another friend said that she has become obsessed with her weight and with not eating, very concerning, eating disorder territory that started with these meds.
I mention that she is an rn (works in a major DC hospital) only to say that educated, medical professionals don't always make the healthiest decisions

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

Another study found otherwise.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2813598

"In summary, in this historical cohort of more than half a million adults with diabetes, we did not reveal any compelling evidence of increased pancreatic cancer risk following use of GLP-1RA. We were able to follow more than 30 000 GLP-1RA users and evaluate their risk for pancreatic cancer incidence up to 7 years after initiation. Our Cox model allowed us to explore the risk for pancreatic cancer associated with use of GLP-1RA compared with basal insulin, with all other characteristics being equal, including history of pancreatitis, other glucose-lowering drugs, and length of diabetes. Our new-user and prevalent new-user design analyses, comparing GLP-1RA use with basal insulin use, concurred with these findings. However, monitoring of GLP-1RA for pancreatic cancer risk beyond 7 years following initiation of therapy is still required."

Anonymous wrote:Your daughter is gorgeous at 5'4" and 140s. She does not need ozempic.

Agreed. She doesn't need it.

Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Your daughter is gorgeous at 5'4" and 140s. She does not need ozempic.

Anonymous wrote:If she is a healthy eater and exercising 5 days a week and unable to lose weight, I would first see an endocrinologist and run very thorough blood tests to see if there is an underlying condition (hypothyroid, some form of PCOS, other hormonal issues) before I'd consider Ozempic.

BTDT - DP doctors don't actually treat PCOS or metabolic issues.

It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

Anonymous wrote:Ozempic face is more gross than being huge

It only exists in your imagination where you need to put people down for trying to get healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not a popular opinion as everybody wants quick and easy solutions... but I'd advise to try fasting first.

That’s too hard Americans want it quick and easy

Spoken like a true idiot you are. Nothing quick and easy about using these drugs. You still have to do the work. It just makes it possible to do the work.

So, respectfully, STFU already and go on your marry skinny way.

Angry bird mad cause you feel nauseous

You're even dumber than I thought.