Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid-40s.

I was never active/fit until about 10 years ago. Never played sports as a kid, was overweight/obese, didn't exercise and didn't see exercise as something other than "to lose weight."

I discovered exercise/fitness as an adult, and it's been transformative for me. I don't think it makes me or anyone superior, but there are immeasurable physical and mental/emotional benefits that cannot be replicated in other ways. And having those benefits makes one's life superior (but saying it makes a *person* superior isn't really accurate).

Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid-40s.

I was never active/fit until about 10 years ago. Never played sports as a kid, was overweight/obese, didn't exercise and didn't see exercise as something other than "to lose weight."

I discovered exercise/fitness as an adult, and it's been transformative for me. I don't think it makes me or anyone superior, but there are immeasurable physical and mental/emotional benefits that cannot be replicated in other ways. And having those benefits makes one's life superior (but saying it makes a *person* superior isn't really accurate).

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

You’re talking to a wall. The PP was literally describing having self-discipline in an abundant junk food culture in order to make her case that it takes zero discipline.

This site seems especially full of absolute idiots lately. Constantly contradicting themselves and they don’t get it even when you explicitly point it out to them. Maybe it’s the influx of reddit traffic or something.

Did you require any significant self discipline during the pandemic at the beginning not to get day drunk? Probably not.

Disagree avoiding the “temptations” of “junk food culture” requires discipline. That presupposes there is some innate drive to eat that garbage. It might be learned but it’s not like the self discipline required to not urinate anywhere you please.

Thanks for providing evidence for the point made in the second paragraph of the post to which you replied. Now run on back to whatever subreddit you wandered out of.

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

You’re talking to a wall. The PP was literally describing having self-discipline in an abundant junk food culture in order to make her case that it takes zero discipline.

This site seems especially full of absolute idiots lately. Constantly contradicting themselves and they don’t get it even when you explicitly point it out to them. Maybe it’s the influx of reddit traffic or something.

Did you require any significant self discipline during the pandemic at the beginning not to get day drunk? Probably not.

Disagree avoiding the “temptations” of “junk food culture” requires discipline. That presupposes there is some innate drive to eat that garbage. It might be learned but it’s not like the self discipline required to not urinate anywhere you please.

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

You’re talking to a wall. The PP was literally describing having self-discipline in an abundant junk food culture in order to make her case that it takes zero discipline.

This site seems especially full of absolute idiots lately. Constantly contradicting themselves and they don’t get it even when you explicitly point it out to them. Maybe it’s the influx of reddit traffic or something.

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

There is a massive gulf between actually hard and not incredibly easy. People are the way they are because they chose incredibly easy. That’s the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:No. But I do enjoy looking at myself when I have a good body.

Honestly, being fit is really easy. It's just requires you to eat right and workout consistently. It's like going to school, in which getting good grades just means you need to do your homework every day/week.

It's not hard, and I find it odd that people have such a hard time doing it consistently. I guess this sentence makes me sound like I feel superior, but I assure you that I do not, because I don't find that being physically fit is difficult. And so I don't feel superior for doing something easy.

+1. I’ve been physically fit my entire life, and no discipline has been needed. I’m just living life normally. I too don’t know why or even how people struggle so much that they feel like the need lots of discipline to stay physically fit, but it definitely isn’t a sign of superiority.

+2. I’m in Finland right now, and nearly everyone I see looks physically fit. Lots of people biking, walking, swimming, etc. I find it hard to believe that this is the result of some kind of moral superiority or excess discipline. It’s just that the society here has made it easy to be physically fit.

If you were mentally fit, you’d know that it is *significantly harder* to be physically fit in the United States than it is in many European countries. Our lifestyles are not even close to the same. So in Finland it might not take any effort or discipline, but HERE it absolutely does.

That being said, on a population level you’re basically making the case that their lifestyle is… what’s the word? Superior?

So live a lifestyle different than normal. Not all that hard.

If people bring garbage to eat at work in the break room, don’t eat it. Don’t pile on processed food during a road trip at the gas station. Actually prioritize health and activity over other conveniences. I guess that’s an inconvenience, but not all that hard in the grand scheme of things.

Obv it is hard and that’s why the majority of the US is overweight and out of shape, with a large percentage obese and morbidly obese.

Anonymous wrote:Fitness used to be a requirement for being a good citizen in some of the greatest civilizations in world history. So many great thinkers and leaders recognized that to have good citizens and good people, that they needed to take responsibility for their fitness, and that you had to ingrain into them a habit of fitness. It is ashamed we have gotten so lazy and slovenly. Modern life in the US is far too easy for people. We give everyone a comfortable life handed to them on a silver platter. That's makes our citizens weak and unable to cope with any challenges, either physically or mentally.

Do you know how they make the best wines in the world? They have to grow grapes in vineyards where they give them hardly any water to keep them alive. It stresses out the plant, forcing it to dig it's roots very deep if it wants to survive. If you give the grapes too much water, its existence becomes too easy and it has shallow roots, making the plant weak overall and producing a far inferior product. Americans these days are like the overwatered grapevines that never have to dig their roots deep to survive. Weak products with no fortitude or resilience.