Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:28     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.


You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.


You should pick up a history book yourself. What do you think they called what they were doing to the Jewish people? DEPORTATIONS

And it neither started nor ended with just the Jewish people. The Nazis had a laundry list of people they othered and persecuted.

Illegal immigrants are the excuse to build the camps. They're the population people like you will be a-okay seeing them dragged kicking and screaming from their homes, thrown on busses and trains to God knows where.

But it doesn't end there. Once the camps are built, there will always be a new "other" to fill them with. And you'll find that eventually that "other" will include someone you care about. And it'll then be too late for you to do anything about it.

Talk about read some history. Read some your damn self. History doesn't repeat itself literally. It rhymes. If you think you can elect a fascist regime without some human right tragedies to go with it, you're stupid.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:19     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.

Well a prior SCOTUS said that was unconstitutional. Somebody will have to litigate so the current SCOTUS can do what they do and disregard stare decis and reverse itself.


All the school districts in the DMV should threaten to do this unless they receive significant federal funding for each of those students
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:17     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
I thought in reality it was more of an administrative action - lifting any restrictions that are currently in place for deportations, possibly excluding family reunification as a reason to not deport, and maybe cancelling some asylum claims and making people report to rehear their case and those who have yet to be interviewed would need to be interviewed and if they don’t show they are deportable. Then there would be something if the person self deports they would be eligible in the future to return.

I don’t see them rounding anyone up but I could see them doing a few work place raids, and then if someone is arrested , they would be removed even if they had an asylum claim pending, visa overstay or are here illegally
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:14     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.

Well a prior SCOTUS said that was unconstitutional. Somebody will have to litigate so the current SCOTUS can do what they do and disregard stare decis and reverse itself.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:08     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.


You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.


Hitler sent a boatload of Jews to the U.S. He said if you want them, you take them

Democrat President FDR said no thanks and sent them back to Europe, where they were executed.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 16:05     Subject: Re:Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
You ask how he'll do it - he's told us

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html

He plans to scour the country for unauthorized immigrants and deport people by the millions per year.

To help speed mass deportations, Mr. Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. To help Immigration and Customs Enforcement carry out sweeping raids, he plans to reassign other federal agents and deputize local police officers and National Guard soldiers voluntarily contributed by Republican-run states.

To ease the strain on ICE detention facilities, Mr. Trump wants to build huge camps to detain people while their cases are processed and they await deportation flights. And to get around any refusal by Congress to appropriate the necessary funds, Mr. Trump would redirect money in the military budget, as he did in his first term to spend more on a border wall than Congress had authorized.

In a public reference to his plans, Mr. Trump told a crowd in Iowa in September: “Following the Eisenhower model, we will carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.” The reference was to a 1954 campaign to round up and expel Mexican immigrants that was named for an ethnic slur — “Operation Wetback.”


When Eisenhower did it, a bunch of legal immigrants and US citizens were deported too. Oops.

https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:59     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).


lol ICE has about 21,000 employees. You are talking about arresting, detaining and processing over 1.6 million in Texas a lone. This will be done by local LE. There will be no selectively ignoring individuals. I doubt you work for ICE.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:54     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

Especially the raging men who invaded while shouting Death to America.


You talking about Jan 6? Yes A lot of them are still out there.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:51     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I don’t understand your breathlessness about an “American born child”. Yes they get deported like they do now, at the rate of about 30 thousand a year. For the hundredth time, there is no such thing as an anchor baby. An American born child does not confer any immigration benefits. This
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:47     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).


How do you deal with due process of law that needs to happen before people can be deported?


Process can be changed. Speedy review of asylum claims with changed standards at the border stations.


How long do you think before this system is up and running? Staffing, training, logistics?


If there is a will, there is a way. You have to remember every line in that process is a choice. None it is carved in stone.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:45     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).


How do you deal with due process of law that needs to happen before people can be deported?


Process can be changed. Speedy review of asylum claims with changed standards at the border stations.


How long do you think before this system is up and running? Staffing, training, logistics?
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:38     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).


How do you deal with due process of law that needs to happen before people can be deported?


Process can be changed. Speedy review of asylum claims with changed standards at the border stations.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:13     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:It’s not realistic because the country people are getting deported to has to agree to take them back.

Plenty of countries like Cambodia, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Pakistan and Russia and Venezuela won’t take back deported citizens and/or frequently pause accepting their deported citizens. There are over 100,000 people the US is waiting to deport but their countries won’t take them.


There is a lot of leverage, if the administration cared. Under law, no visas for these countries. No tourist visas, no work visas, no green cards. That would certainly be enough to get deals for some of that list.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:06     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).


How do you deal with due process of law that needs to happen before people can be deported?
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 15:04     Subject: Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations
Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.


You need to read some history. Nazi's rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death.

Repatriating illegal aliens to their country of origin is not that, FFS.