Anonymous
07/21/2024 18:19
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:For call center and other high turnover jobs, they usually start training cohorts at the same time. So if you get hired between Jan 1 and Feb 1, your training starts Feb 7. If you get hired between Feb 1 and March 15, you start March 21, etc.
That way the training team’s entire job is to just repeat these training courses over and over every four or six or eight weeks. That’s why people can’t take vacation: because there’s no easy way to get off and back on the wheel.
Do you happen to know when the next cohort begins? How does that correspond to your due date?
I applied for the job towards the end of May and interviewed the first week of June. The job was supposed to start a few weeks later but got pushed back all the way to the end of August. For healthcare usually they hire more employees to train towards end of summer or early fall so we are ready for open enrollment. My job deals more with pharmacy benefits and I will work more specifically with only one drug. It’s a bit more niche.
Anonymous
07/18/2024 19:01
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
For call center and other high turnover jobs, they usually start training cohorts at the same time. So if you get hired between Jan 1 and Feb 1, your training starts Feb 7. If you get hired between Feb 1 and March 15, you start March 21, etc.
That way the training team’s entire job is to just repeat these training courses over and over every four or six or eight weeks. That’s why people can’t take vacation: because there’s no easy way to get off and back on the wheel.
Do you happen to know when the next cohort begins? How does that correspond to your due date?
That way the training team’s entire job is to just repeat these training courses over and over every four or six or eight weeks. That’s why people can’t take vacation: because there’s no easy way to get off and back on the wheel.
Do you happen to know when the next cohort begins? How does that correspond to your due date?
Anonymous
07/18/2024 18:42
Subject: Re:Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.
Period. Stop making things so complicated.
This but I would leave out the 7:45-8:45 part.
I have a dr. appointment on X date that I can't reschedule. I anticipate being logged on by 9:30.
Congrats on the new job and the little one, OP.
+1 and say "I can provide documentation if needed."
Plenty of people with other chronic med issues that need medical attention, kid or family medical needs, etc. What if someone just got sick, they can't take a day off? This sounds like an awful workplace culture OP (per what you said about your manager) so good luck.
Op here. We do have PTO but they don’t want you to take it until after training. I think this is specific to healthcare customer service type of jobs. It does sound awful and there is high turnover in this field.
OP What does this training entail? Are there recorded lectures you could watch in advance to make up the 2 hours you will miss? I would get a feel of the training the first few days and figure out the best way to minimize the impact of missing and then let them know that in advance that you have a doctor's appointment on this day and here's your plan to minimize impact on training.
(FWIW I don't think not disclosing you are pregnant at 4-5 weeks is Lying especially if the training was supposed to start at a time you had no medical conflicts.)
Op here. For hourly positions you can’t do anything off the clock. I did that with a job I had with apple and got fired because of it. Usually the training is all live and modules. You’re learning how to navigate through all the softwares, take notes etc etc. Once you get through it all you will be fine but missing a day or even an hour isn’t the best because you may miss an important step. Hopefully by that time all the tech stuff will be out of the way.
Anonymous
07/18/2024 08:09
Subject: Re:Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.
Period. Stop making things so complicated.
This but I would leave out the 7:45-8:45 part.
I have a dr. appointment on X date that I can't reschedule. I anticipate being logged on by 9:30.
Congrats on the new job and the little one, OP.
+1 and say "I can provide documentation if needed."
Plenty of people with other chronic med issues that need medical attention, kid or family medical needs, etc. What if someone just got sick, they can't take a day off? This sounds like an awful workplace culture OP (per what you said about your manager) so good luck.
Op here. We do have PTO but they don’t want you to take it until after training. I think this is specific to healthcare customer service type of jobs. It does sound awful and there is high turnover in this field.
OP What does this training entail? Are there recorded lectures you could watch in advance to make up the 2 hours you will miss? I would get a feel of the training the first few days and figure out the best way to minimize the impact of missing and then let them know that in advance that you have a doctor's appointment on this day and here's your plan to minimize impact on training.
(FWIW I don't think not disclosing you are pregnant at 4-5 weeks is Lying especially if the training was supposed to start at a time you had no medical conflicts.)
Anonymous
07/18/2024 05:17
Subject: Re:Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.
Period. Stop making things so complicated.
This but I would leave out the 7:45-8:45 part.
I have a dr. appointment on X date that I can't reschedule. I anticipate being logged on by 9:30.
Congrats on the new job and the little one, OP.
+1 and say "I can provide documentation if needed."
Plenty of people with other chronic med issues that need medical attention, kid or family medical needs, etc. What if someone just got sick, they can't take a day off? This sounds like an awful workplace culture OP (per what you said about your manager) so good luck.
Op here. We do have PTO but they don’t want you to take it until after training. I think this is specific to healthcare customer service type of jobs. It does sound awful and there is high turnover in this field.
Anonymous
07/17/2024 21:58
Subject: Re:Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a dr appointment from 7:45-8:45 on X date that I can't reschedule I will be logged on by 9:30.
Period. Stop making things so complicated.
This but I would leave out the 7:45-8:45 part.
I have a dr. appointment on X date that I can't reschedule. I anticipate being logged on by 9:30.
Congrats on the new job and the little one, OP.
+1 and say "I can provide documentation if needed."
Plenty of people with other chronic med issues that need medical attention, kid or family medical needs, etc. What if someone just got sick, they can't take a day off? This sounds like an awful workplace culture OP (per what you said about your manager) so good luck.
Anonymous
07/17/2024 20:45
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Hey OP, I hope you come back.
You should disclose to your manager now that you are pregnant and have a appointment that will cause you to miss an hour of training. Pregnancy is a protected status under the Pregnant Workers Fairness act, and final regulations just went into effect 6/18, so a lot of people who should know about the act, don’t.
By disclosing now you trigger the applicant protections that exist, even prior to your hire, and the company can’t claim you were let go for any other performance issue without risking a hefty EEOC fine. But you only have the protect IF you disclose the pregnancy. Do not wait, do not provide a vague medical reason, you must disclose the pregnancy for the protections to kick in.
Check out the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-pregnant-workers-fairness-act
What is the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?
Generally, the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act (PWFA) requires a covered employer to provide a “reasonable accommodation” to a qualified employee’s or applicant’s known limitations related to, affected by, or arising out of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions, unless the accommodation will cause the employer an “undue hardship.”
The PWFA applies only to accommodations. Other laws that the EEOC enforces make it illegal to fire or otherwise discriminate against employees or applicants on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions.
Lots of terrible information in this thread from ridiculous boomers. Your job asked if you had any time off planned so you’d hopefully disclose something - like pregnancy- and not hire you. You did the right thing in keeping your pregnancy to yourself. Nevermind how common miscarriages are.
For all of the people who told OP she lied, you can pound sand. She’s a hourly worker in effectively a call center, that company does not care about her. All of you “ I value honesty in hiring…” are liars, you’re the same people who wouldn’t have hired her for being pregnant.
Op here. Thank you. I am employed now but it’s a temporary job. I still have one medical test I need to complete. Even though the job is work from home they require lots of vaccines and medical tests. I had a recent tb test that was negative but that’s not enough for them. I must drive 45 mins away to get tb blood work done. They also said I need to do a tdap again in the fall. It’s so strange because I am completely work from home. How can I infect someone over email or the phone? There will no meetings or a reason why I need to go into the office. The company is a few hours away from me. It seems they have same policy for all employees.
Anonymous
07/17/2024 19:21
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Hey OP, I hope you come back.
You should disclose to your manager now that you are pregnant and have a appointment that will cause you to miss an hour of training. Pregnancy is a protected status under the Pregnant Workers Fairness act, and final regulations just went into effect 6/18, so a lot of people who should know about the act, don’t.
By disclosing now you trigger the applicant protections that exist, even prior to your hire, and the company can’t claim you were let go for any other performance issue without risking a hefty EEOC fine. But you only have the protect IF you disclose the pregnancy. Do not wait, do not provide a vague medical reason, you must disclose the pregnancy for the protections to kick in.
Check out the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-pregnant-workers-fairness-act
What is the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?
Generally, the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act (PWFA) requires a covered employer to provide a “reasonable accommodation” to a qualified employee’s or applicant’s known limitations related to, affected by, or arising out of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions, unless the accommodation will cause the employer an “undue hardship.”
The PWFA applies only to accommodations. Other laws that the EEOC enforces make it illegal to fire or otherwise discriminate against employees or applicants on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions.
Lots of terrible information in this thread from ridiculous boomers. Your job asked if you had any time off planned so you’d hopefully disclose something - like pregnancy- and not hire you. You did the right thing in keeping your pregnancy to yourself. Nevermind how common miscarriages are.
For all of the people who told OP she lied, you can pound sand. She’s a hourly worker in effectively a call center, that company does not care about her. All of you “ I value honesty in hiring…” are liars, you’re the same people who wouldn’t have hired her for being pregnant.
You should disclose to your manager now that you are pregnant and have a appointment that will cause you to miss an hour of training. Pregnancy is a protected status under the Pregnant Workers Fairness act, and final regulations just went into effect 6/18, so a lot of people who should know about the act, don’t.
By disclosing now you trigger the applicant protections that exist, even prior to your hire, and the company can’t claim you were let go for any other performance issue without risking a hefty EEOC fine. But you only have the protect IF you disclose the pregnancy. Do not wait, do not provide a vague medical reason, you must disclose the pregnancy for the protections to kick in.
Check out the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-pregnant-workers-fairness-act
What is the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?
Generally, the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act (PWFA) requires a covered employer to provide a “reasonable accommodation” to a qualified employee’s or applicant’s known limitations related to, affected by, or arising out of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions, unless the accommodation will cause the employer an “undue hardship.”
The PWFA applies only to accommodations. Other laws that the EEOC enforces make it illegal to fire or otherwise discriminate against employees or applicants on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions.
Lots of terrible information in this thread from ridiculous boomers. Your job asked if you had any time off planned so you’d hopefully disclose something - like pregnancy- and not hire you. You did the right thing in keeping your pregnancy to yourself. Nevermind how common miscarriages are.
For all of the people who told OP she lied, you can pound sand. She’s a hourly worker in effectively a call center, that company does not care about her. All of you “ I value honesty in hiring…” are liars, you’re the same people who wouldn’t have hired her for being pregnant.
Anonymous
07/17/2024 18:29
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
OP didn’t lie because I doubt the employer asked if she’s pregnant. If they asked if she had vacation planned, she does not. She has medical appointments, which is not vacation.
Anonymous
07/17/2024 17:00
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You lied by omission 5 times.
Find a place for the scan-off hours.
I think with pregnancy it's frankly okay to lie because otherwise you risk being discriminated against. At that time I didn't consider it a lie. They asked about vacations. They didn't ask if I had a time-sensitive doctor's appointment that would take 1-2 hours. I'm not paying out of pocket for scans and I do need to go to this particular place because that's where I meet with my high-risk doctor. Scans can be thousands. I also need to get my cervix length checked.
You would have been .out on your derriere so fast you would have thought you were flying. People like you are the reason many company don't hire women.
And men like you are the reason some women choose to remain single for life.
I am a woman who has an excellent work ethic and expects the same from employees. Honesty is the top of the list.
Anonymous
07/14/2024 23:13
Subject: Re:Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:OP your options are
1. wait until training is done to complete the scan
2. have the scan completed prior to starting training
3. miss a few hours of training for the scan and either a) be fired or b) it works out
4. dont do the scan at all
5. quit the job and try to find something else
Or
6. Drive multiple hours away if necessary to a boutique clinic that will scan over the weekend. Explain your problem to your OB and get a referral.
I think that about covers it. We can’t magically create options that don’t exist.
Anonymous
07/14/2024 23:04
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
OP, you need to prioritize your baby's health.
Get the scan at the recommended 20 weeks. I don't get why getting it a week later would help when you will still be in training. But you need to get it when your doctor tells you to.
Do you have a job now? Or are you unemployed?
If you are unemployed, just start the training and then the day before or day of say you have a medical issue that needs to be handled immediately but you hope to log in by 930. At least then you get a few weeks pay out of them if they fire you.
If you are employed and afraid of giving up a job and then losing a new one, go ahead and disclose now that you will need to have a medical appointment on X date. See how they react.
I don't think I'd mention the pregancy yet.
Get the scan at the recommended 20 weeks. I don't get why getting it a week later would help when you will still be in training. But you need to get it when your doctor tells you to.
Do you have a job now? Or are you unemployed?
If you are unemployed, just start the training and then the day before or day of say you have a medical issue that needs to be handled immediately but you hope to log in by 930. At least then you get a few weeks pay out of them if they fire you.
If you are employed and afraid of giving up a job and then losing a new one, go ahead and disclose now that you will need to have a medical appointment on X date. See how they react.
I don't think I'd mention the pregancy yet.
Anonymous
07/14/2024 22:51
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can move the 20 week scan forward a week or two OP.
Are there any holidays off during your training? I was sometimes able to schedule medical appointments on holidays because I was off work but the medical offices were open (barring Christmas and Thanksgiving).
I would need to move it to 17 weeks 4 days. The MFM office isn't open on Fridays. Training is supposed to be 6 weeks but it could be shorter. If I move it to after training that puts me at 26 weeks unless I do it the very last week of training. I am hoping training gets shortened. I do think the first week we will learn a lot more. In this line of work, turnover is very high. Another person above pointed out that sometimes companies hire more candidates than they need for this reason and not all of them stay through the training. In some positions, they would need to find a temp but in this field, it's not common because there are so many of us with this job title. It's a little niche because it's working with pharm but it's similar to claims at a health insurance company. I won't be doing customer service but I will be reaching out to a lot of health insurance companies to verify pharm coverage. Labor day is one day we will have off but I don't think MFM office will be open.
First off, there are a ton of private scanning companies you can go to. All you need is an ultrasound tech, they’re all trained in how to perform an anatomy scan (yes I have firsthand knowledge of this). Then you just send the results to your OB or MFM.
Second, unless you’re very overweight anatomy scans can definitely be done at 17 weeks. What they’re looking for is not going to magically appear in 3 weeks. They just need a good view, if they can get it which they should be able to on a normal BMI woman at 17 weeks - great.
Op is considered high risk so there is more to the 20 week scan. Also she shouldn’t have to pay out of pocket or skip essential appointments and that’s why we give accommodations to women who are pregnant. I would disclose so they can’t let her go for missing training. She could push the appointment back of forward but she shouldn’t have to. Sometimes the cervix needs to be measured exactly around 20 weeks if not sooner if there is a high risk problem due to that.
Anonymous
07/12/2024 22:40
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You lied by omission 5 times.
Find a place for the scan-off hours.
I think with pregnancy it's frankly okay to lie because otherwise you risk being discriminated against. At that time I didn't consider it a lie. They asked about vacations. They didn't ask if I had a time-sensitive doctor's appointment that would take 1-2 hours. I'm not paying out of pocket for scans and I do need to go to this particular place because that's where I meet with my high-risk doctor. Scans can be thousands. I also need to get my cervix length checked.
You would have been .out on your derriere so fast you would have thought you were flying. People like you are the reason many company don't hire women.
And men like you are the reason some women choose to remain single for life.
Anonymous
07/12/2024 22:39
Subject: Starting a new WFH job at 18 weeks and need to disclose medical appointments right away
Good info but OP thinks you are a male manager, lol.
Thinks I am one too, along with others who said she blew her chances to be upfront.
Thinks I am one too, along with others who said she blew her chances to be upfront.