Anonymous
06/20/2024 07:58
Subject: Re:what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:Id think deeply about the type of environment he wants. Example:
Uchicago is a great, really hard school. It’s not exactly known for its exciting environment even if it’s in Chicago, because students work like hounds there, and the academic culture is very PhD prep even if you’re going off to industry right after.
Bowdoin is also great, really collaborative community school. Bowdoin people work hard, but they also spend a lot of time community bonding (Maine winter on a small campus brings people together).
Davidson is another great option, pretty much a rigorous, Greek life school. It’s got heavy grade deflation but students love it there and the Greek life takes over the culture a bit. With North Carolina, you get the sun but you also get the humidity.
He should also look at faculty closely. Humanities departments across the board are struggling a bit with their faculty lines, and he should Ed where he has the ability to be taught by important people in his field. For example, if I was an English major today, I’d jump at the opportunity to go to Columbia or Iowa, because they have the best of the best.
Our experience with Davidson doesn’t quite fit the above portrayal. While it is true that students love the Davidson experience, work hard, and have a Greek life, there is not grade deflation and Greek life is very unlike most Greek schools.
Davidson publishes annually an academic profile of its graduating class. For 2024, the average GPA was 3.658 and the median was 3.748. Three quarters of the kids had a GPA above 3.52.
As for Greek life, it’s very much Greek-lite. Only 25% of guys join a fraternity and most Greek girls join eating houses. The eating houses are non-rush, non-competitive admissions. Girls input preferences for their self or a group of friends and a computer determines the match. All Greek parties are open to everyone, save the formals.
Anonymous
06/20/2024 07:30
Subject: Re:what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Id think deeply about the type of environment he wants. Example:
Uchicago is a great, really hard school. It’s not exactly known for its exciting environment even if it’s in Chicago, because students work like hounds there, and the academic culture is very PhD prep even if you’re going off to industry right after.
Bowdoin is also great, really collaborative community school. Bowdoin people work hard, but they also spend a lot of time community bonding (Maine winter on a small campus brings people together).
Davidson is another great option, pretty much a rigorous, Greek life school. It’s got heavy grade deflation but students love it there and the Greek life takes over the culture a bit. With North Carolina, you get the sun but you also get the humidity.
He should also look at faculty closely. Humanities departments across the board are struggling a bit with their faculty lines, and he should Ed where he has the ability to be taught by important people in his field. For example, if I was an English major today, I’d jump at the opportunity to go to Columbia or Iowa, because they have the best of the best.
Uchicago is a great, really hard school. It’s not exactly known for its exciting environment even if it’s in Chicago, because students work like hounds there, and the academic culture is very PhD prep even if you’re going off to industry right after.
Bowdoin is also great, really collaborative community school. Bowdoin people work hard, but they also spend a lot of time community bonding (Maine winter on a small campus brings people together).
Davidson is another great option, pretty much a rigorous, Greek life school. It’s got heavy grade deflation but students love it there and the Greek life takes over the culture a bit. With North Carolina, you get the sun but you also get the humidity.
He should also look at faculty closely. Humanities departments across the board are struggling a bit with their faculty lines, and he should Ed where he has the ability to be taught by important people in his field. For example, if I was an English major today, I’d jump at the opportunity to go to Columbia or Iowa, because they have the best of the best.
Anonymous
06/20/2024 07:24
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
^^^I should add-took max rigor curriculum including post Calculus BC, Physics C, and all AP level classes Junior and Senior year.
Anonymous
06/20/2024 07:22
Subject: Re:what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Quite a mix of schools. I’d start by separating the schools by type.
Research Universities
Chicago
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
ND
Rice
Liberal Arts Schools
Bowdoin
Middlebury
Williams
Davidson
Next, consider the culture and location of these schools. My kid would choose Vanderbilt or Davidson because he’s looking for a non-grind, balanced, and happy student body with excellent academics in a temperate climate.
Research Universities
Chicago
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
ND
Rice
Liberal Arts Schools
Bowdoin
Middlebury
Williams
Davidson
Next, consider the culture and location of these schools. My kid would choose Vanderbilt or Davidson because he’s looking for a non-grind, balanced, and happy student body with excellent academics in a temperate climate.
Anonymous
06/20/2024 07:12
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Basically he needs to decide about Northwestern or Notre Dame as a top choice for ED1 or REA and can ED2 everywhere else on your list (ok, not Williams, but what kid from NYC wants to move to rural MA unless an athlete).
My DC going to Northwestern with around same GPA and top test scores, including AP exams (our private got rid of the classes but still took the exams to prove knowledge). Did have a national level EC. Came from top DMV private and did ED1, which was critical as a White male. Lots of demonstrated interest shown. NU good for most everything, especially humanities, and in a good part of a big city rather than Hyde Park. They also take close to 20% in ED. If they like your private, which you can tell by looking at your school’s SCOIR data, then consider it! DC also liked Stanford and to me they get similar type students. Good luck!
My DC going to Northwestern with around same GPA and top test scores, including AP exams (our private got rid of the classes but still took the exams to prove knowledge). Did have a national level EC. Came from top DMV private and did ED1, which was critical as a White male. Lots of demonstrated interest shown. NU good for most everything, especially humanities, and in a good part of a big city rather than Hyde Park. They also take close to 20% in ED. If they like your private, which you can tell by looking at your school’s SCOIR data, then consider it! DC also liked Stanford and to me they get similar type students. Good luck!
Anonymous
06/20/2024 02:15
Subject: Re:what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
There is indeed a yawning gap between top tier NYC privates and DC privates, but rest assured there are many non-DC people on this board. This is the College and University discussion, not the one for local private schools.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 22:44
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:No offense but why are people from NYC privates on our thread? There is a big difference between the NYC privates and our schools.
Is your kid at a top school like Riverdale or Collegiate or at a second tier school? It makes a huge difference. We can't weigh in on your 3.8 GPA without knowledge of the NYC schools.
because UB and YBM closed.
No offense, but "top tier" is a prescribed set of schools in New York. IFKYK. You don't. It's okay.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 21:18
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
No offense but why are people from NYC privates on our thread? There is a big difference between the NYC privates and our schools.
Is your kid at a top school like Riverdale or Collegiate or at a second tier school? It makes a huge difference. We can't weigh in on your 3.8 GPA without knowledge of the NYC schools.
Is your kid at a top school like Riverdale or Collegiate or at a second tier school? It makes a huge difference. We can't weigh in on your 3.8 GPA without knowledge of the NYC schools.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 17:58
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Half is not nearly all.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 17:08
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:okay so 60% is a far cry from "nearly all"
Not really, it still likely that first gen group is made of Posse and Questbrosge students.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 16:39
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
okay so 60% is a far cry from "nearly all"
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:33
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Middlebury accepted 425 ED1 this year.
43 of them were first gen.
33 International
7 quest bridge
16 posse
897 kids take part in at least one sport. That number usually shrinks as you go up in years (due to injury or loss of interest), but let's say 25% per grade even though that's probably low for first years. So 225 are athletes.
So, 324 out of 425 were first gen, athletes, posse, questbrige, intl
Now add legacy and donors and let me know how many spots for your unhooked male. 25? 30?
You are double counting, nearly all of those posse and questbridge kids are first gen.
questbridge probably but not posse.. people here dont know what posse is. no income cap for example.
About 60 percent of Posse students are first gen, source: Posse website.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:20
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Middlebury accepted 425 ED1 this year.
43 of them were first gen.
33 International
7 quest bridge
16 posse
897 kids take part in at least one sport. That number usually shrinks as you go up in years (due to injury or loss of interest), but let's say 25% per grade even though that's probably low for first years. So 225 are athletes.
So, 324 out of 425 were first gen, athletes, posse, questbrige, intl
Now add legacy and donors and let me know how many spots for your unhooked male. 25? 30?
You are double counting, nearly all of those posse and questbridge kids are first gen.
questbridge probably but not posse.. people here dont know what posse is. no income cap for example.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 12:55
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:Middlebury accepted 425 ED1 this year.
43 of them were first gen.
33 International
7 quest bridge
16 posse
897 kids take part in at least one sport. That number usually shrinks as you go up in years (due to injury or loss of interest), but let's say 25% per grade even though that's probably low for first years. So 225 are athletes.
So, 324 out of 425 were first gen, athletes, posse, questbrige, intl
Now add legacy and donors and let me know how many spots for your unhooked male. 25? 30?
Only a small percentage of those athletes are getting an admission advantage, D3 schools limit coaches to a few sports per team, so maybe 60 to 80 are athletes, but that is likely also too high.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 12:53
Subject: what to ED1/ED2/RD with this list
Anonymous wrote:Middlebury accepted 425 ED1 this year.
43 of them were first gen.
33 International
7 quest bridge
16 posse
897 kids take part in at least one sport. That number usually shrinks as you go up in years (due to injury or loss of interest), but let's say 25% per grade even though that's probably low for first years. So 225 are athletes.
So, 324 out of 425 were first gen, athletes, posse, questbrige, intl
Now add legacy and donors and let me know how many spots for your unhooked male. 25? 30?
You are double counting, nearly all of those posse and questbridge kids are first gen.