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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

My family was murdered and raped and conquered. I am Scottish. Should I launch missiles at London?

What a bunch of racist assumptions you are making. As if white people don’t have their own history of oppression. Go back to school.

What kind of Scottish? Like white trash American Scottish? B/c actual Scots who live in Scotland are very very pro-Palestinian in general so you must have these arguments every damn Friday b/c you are in the minority.

I find it amusing that you refer to a group as trash while also trying to maintain a point of moral high ground.

Anonymous wrote:Reminder: Israeli right wingers assassinated Yitzhak Rabin *because he was working towards a two-state solution*.

Tell me again that the Palestinians are the ones who won't accept a two-state solution.

An Israeli extremist assassinated Rabin. He is in prison.

Palestinians voted for a terrorist organization whose sole mission is to eradicate Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

And what has Israel demonstrated from the moment it was established? They could have chosen to live among the Palestinians and share the land. Instead they chose theft and murder. Why would anyone living there find that acceptable? What reason has Israel given these people to trust them as their neighbors?

It's literally the exact opposite of this. Israel agreed to share the land. The Palestinians attacked. And attacked. And attacked.
The vast majority of Israelis DON'T CARE who is living next door. They wouldn't give a flying f--k about Palestinians if there weren't rocket attacks.
Palestinians HATE Israelis though.

Anonymous wrote:What are the boundaries of the recognized state?

1967 lines

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

My family was murdered and raped and conquered. I am Scottish. Should I launch missiles at London?

What a bunch of racist assumptions you are making. As if white people don’t have their own history of oppression. Go back to school.

Your people fought MANY bloody wars with the British, and your freedom fighters were also labeled terrorists. Ireland is hugely in support of the Palestinian cause. They know what it is to be occupied by greedy colonizers. You want me to pretend I can't see what is plainly obvious. I won't. And your insults mean nothing.

Yes and we lost and now we live peacefully under British rule. We don’t launch rockets at London.

DP. Do you control your water? Do you have basic freedom of movement? Can you vote in UK elections? Are more than 50% of Scots facing a humanitarian crisis? The answers certainly make for a more peaceful existence when considering Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Chicken or the egg? I guarantee you that if Scottish rockets were sent towards England there would be no refuge. History proves that. Did the Irish bombing achieve independence?

Yes it did. It achieved a parliament in Northern Ireland and a long term peace deal for coexistence.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

My family was murdered and raped and conquered. I am Scottish. Should I launch missiles at London?

What a bunch of racist assumptions you are making. As if white people don’t have their own history of oppression. Go back to school.

What kind of Scottish? Like white trash American Scottish? B/c actual Scots who live in Scotland are very very pro-Palestinian in general so you must have these arguments every damn Friday b/c you are in the minority.

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Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Np.Yes, I view the border crisis as a rightful claim to land.

It’s true- they don’t cross the border, the border crossed them. I absolutely believe that sacred land that is in national parks must be returned and reparations to the tune of what we pay out as ‘foreign aid’ be required to be paid to our own indigenous communities plus the tribes that were disbanded as an effort to cut costs and force assimilation should be re-enrolled. It’s shameful that people in the Congo & Ukraine get more us tax payer funds than the entire dept. of the interior. It’s like living in a cape cod & buying your poor cousins a mansion with a pool. The Belgians and Dutch and Germans caused the issues in that area of the world- they should pay and if they can’t afford universal healthcare ‘shrug’ neither can we!

What are the boundaries of the recognized state?

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Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

It’s like calling a woman who is being raped a terrorist for kicking and biting her attacker.

What Israel and the US are doing is magnitudes more vile than a gang rape.

Uh no, Hamas launching a terrorist attack that killed 1,200 (mostly civilians), taking hundreds of hostages (all civilians) and mutilating the bodies they killed does not make them the victims, you sicko. My god, what the inside of your mind must be like.

That's absolutely not true. Not justifying hostage taking in any way. The five women in the video were soldiers and at least two who died were soldiers (the mothers investigated their deaths because Israel said Hamas killed them, but it was from chemical inhalation from IDF missile strikes).

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-said-their-sons-were-murdered-by-hamas-these-mothers-werent-convinced-15461312

Hamas didn’t know that at the time.

Again, not true. They attacked military outposts and bases.

5 women taken from Nahal Oz military base. Many of the 1200 who died on 10/7 were there too
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-hostage-video.html

19yo taken from unidentified military base.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/who-are-hostages-taken-by-hamas-from-southern-israel

One of the released hostages was taken from Nahal Oz - thank goodness she's home safe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/30/world/middleeast/israel-rescue-soldier-abducted-hamas.html?searchResultPosition=10

Currently, 142 of the 193 countries in the United Nations already recognize a Palestinian state, according to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. The U.S. is not included in this list.

So much for a two state solution with the US involved.

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Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

It’s like calling a woman who is being raped a terrorist for kicking and biting her attacker.

What Israel and the US are doing is magnitudes more vile than a gang rape.

Uh no, Hamas launching a terrorist attack that killed 1,200 (mostly civilians), taking hundreds of hostages (all civilians) and mutilating the bodies they killed does not make them the victims, you sicko. My god, what the inside of your mind must be like.

That's absolutely not true. Not justifying hostage taking in any way. The five women in the video were soldiers and at least two who died were soldiers (the mothers investigated their deaths because Israel said Hamas killed them, but it was from chemical inhalation from IDF missile strikes).

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-said-their-sons-were-murdered-by-hamas-these-mothers-werent-convinced-15461312

Hamas didn’t know that at the time.

Hamas didn't know people at the freaking IDF base are soldiers?

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

My family was murdered and raped and conquered. I am Scottish. Should I launch missiles at London?

What a bunch of racist assumptions you are making. As if white people don’t have their own history of oppression. Go back to school.

If you really are Scottish, you hold a British passport and are free to move to London. There are no differences in legal status between you and the English. You have a one-state solution deployed in these fair isles.

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Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

It’s like calling a woman who is being raped a terrorist for kicking and biting her attacker.

What Israel and the US are doing is magnitudes more vile than a gang rape.

Uh no, Hamas launching a terrorist attack that killed 1,200 (mostly civilians), taking hundreds of hostages (all civilians) and mutilating the bodies they killed does not make them the victims, you sicko. My god, what the inside of your mind must be like.

That's absolutely not true. Not justifying hostage taking in any way. The five women in the video were soldiers and at least two who died were soldiers (the mothers investigated their deaths because Israel said Hamas killed them, but it was from chemical inhalation from IDF missile strikes).

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-said-their-sons-were-murdered-by-hamas-these-mothers-werent-convinced-15461312

Hamas didn’t know that at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

Native Americans are American citizens. Despite colonial America's horrible record with them, today they are equal citizens and share everything America has to offer.

That is not the case in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

My family was murdered and raped and conquered. I am Scottish. Should I launch missiles at London?

What a bunch of racist assumptions you are making. As if white people don’t have their own history of oppression. Go back to school.

Your people fought MANY bloody wars with the British, and your freedom fighters were also labeled terrorists. Ireland is hugely in support of the Palestinian cause. They know what it is to be occupied by greedy colonizers. You want me to pretend I can't see what is plainly obvious. I won't. And your insults mean nothing.

Yes and we lost and now we live peacefully under British rule. We don’t launch rockets at London.

DP. Do you control your water? Do you have basic freedom of movement? Can you vote in UK elections? Are more than 50% of Scots facing a humanitarian crisis? The answers certainly make for a more peaceful existence when considering Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Chicken or the egg? I guarantee you that if Scottish rockets were sent towards England there would be no refuge. History proves that. Did the Irish bombing achieve independence?