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Anonymous wrote:So, one random guy that no one has ever heard of is addressing a group of his FELLOW Catholics, and this somehow triggered you enough to make a thread about it? On the Political Forum? Too funny.

This has been on the news for days.
Congratulations on waking from your coma.

I guess to you, one day = days? So many exaggerations, even about mundane things. Do better.

Hey dum dum,
He gave the speech last week. It’s been blowing up social media for days.
Keep up.

Anonymous wrote:I am a disillusioned Democrat who was thinking of sitting the next one out. This guy sure snapped me out of that temporary insanity.

This gives me hope (sincerely). In the darker parts of my mind I envision us all sleepwalking into a largely theocratic, male-centric government while still saying, "They would never do that" where "that" is any number of things: banning abortion even if the pregnancy kills you, or if you a 10 year old rape victim, banning birth control, repealing the civil rights act and not allowing pregnant or married women to work, etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:They are coming to purge Catholics who won’t bow down to hard right doctrine. He calls people who use IVF and contraception “disordered”

It’s happening folks. They are coming for disloyal Catholics next:

Name your favorite commencement speaker, OP.

DP Conan O’Brien

1) kickers are idiots.

2) this guy just LOOKS dumb.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are coming to purge Catholics who won’t bow down to hard right doctrine. He calls people who use IVF and contraception “disordered”

It’s happening folks. They are coming for disloyal Catholics next:

Name your favorite commencement speaker, OP.

Probably this idiot:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columbia-university-graduation-speaker-gaza-b2545703.html

Anonymous wrote:They are coming to purge Catholics who won’t bow down to hard right doctrine. He calls people who use IVF and contraception “disordered”

It’s happening folks. They are coming for disloyal Catholics next:

Name your favorite commencement speaker, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:He was speaking to a certain audience. Why do others, not part of that audience, care? There can be many different viewpoints.

Because he is a barometer of sorts. You know we’re all not a bunch of mindless heathens, right? We do read things like Reuters and The Economist and learn about trends. There is a big resurgence of strict Christianity or Christian nationalism in response to the rapid social change that’s taking place.

So people not part of that audience care because it helps us gauge what you all are thinking. What else are you going to decry and try to restrict? What other rights are we potentially going to lose because of your religious ideology and influence. Do you understand that? We want to know what we might be facing. And that bearded dipsht is a thermometer.

Ok - so how do you feel about the strict Muslim community and all of the things they forbid/restrict? You do know they hate the LGBTQ community, and don’t even start with gay marriage. They consider women second-class citizens too. You ok with those restrictions and regressive ideology? We’ll wait while you spin something up.
DP

I’m a Catholic and this thread about a heretic Catholic speaking to young Catholic women. That’s why I care.

If you start a thread about a heretic Muslim I’m sure an educated Muslim could explain to you why it’s lies.

Are you the PP to whom I was addressing my questions? If so - still waiting on your answers. If not, your concerns are irrelevant.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was speaking to a certain audience. Why do others, not part of that audience, care? There can be many different viewpoints.

Because he is a barometer of sorts. You know we’re all not a bunch of mindless heathens, right? We do read things like Reuters and The Economist and learn about trends. There is a big resurgence of strict Christianity or Christian nationalism in response to the rapid social change that’s taking place.

So people not part of that audience care because it helps us gauge what you all are thinking. What else are you going to decry and try to restrict? What other rights are we potentially going to lose because of your religious ideology and influence. Do you understand that? We want to know what we might be facing. And that bearded dipsht is a thermometer.

Ok - so how do you feel about the strict Muslim community and all of the things they forbid/restrict? You do know they hate the LGBTQ community, and don’t even start with gay marriage. They consider women second-class citizens too. You ok with those restrictions and regressive ideology? We’ll wait while you spin something up.
DP

I’m a Catholic and this thread about a heretic Catholic speaking to young Catholic women. That’s why I care.

If you start a thread about a heretic Muslim I’m sure an educated Muslim could explain to you why it’s lies.

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Anonymous wrote:He was speaking to a certain audience. Why do others, not part of that audience, care? There can be many different viewpoints.

+1
No doubt if this was an audience to which they felt a kinship, like say, Democratic Socialists of America, or maybe BLM, they'd wholeheartedly agree with whatever message was being spewed.

Sure, but it would be a better message. His speech sucked.

The fact that you think a speech to one of those groups would be "a better message" is just so telling.
DP

Such a radicalized right winger, he publicly and unabashedly criticizes a member of his own faith and one of two (?) Catholic presidents we’ve ever had. That’s some kind of Kool-aid they serve on the sports-bro morning shows.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."

He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

Difference without a distinction.

Hey folks who use birth control and IVF -this conservative Catholics thinks that your use “stems from the pervasiveness of disorder.” Along with his other hard right laundry list of culture war grievances.

He is a dangerous extremist.

Because you disagree with him? He's allowed his beliefs.

Yes he is allowed his beliefs. But he didn’t say they were his beliefs he said they are Catholic beliefs and that’s a lie.

Show your evidence.

He said a women’s greatest calling is to be a wife… wrong, it’s to serve God.

He said natural family planning was immoral and that is against Catholic teaching.

You sound like heathen conservative… if you were Catholic you would know that his speech is full of lies about what the Catholic Church asks of women.

Read the catechism and then come back a little more educated.

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Anonymous wrote:So, one random guy that no one has ever heard of is addressing a group of his FELLOW Catholics, and this somehow triggered you enough to make a thread about it? On the Political Forum? Too funny.

This has been on the news for days.
Congratulations on waking from your coma.

I guess to you, one day = days? So many exaggerations, even about mundane things. Do better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, one random guy that no one has ever heard of is addressing a group of his FELLOW Catholics, and this somehow triggered you enough to make a thread about it? On the Political Forum? Too funny.

I'm already trying to prepare for the discussion with my 12 year old son, a huge Chiefs fan.

By the way it's very self centered of you to say nobody has ever heard of him. Self centered in a weird way.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

DP. That's not what I got from it. He was saying that the *most important accomplishment* for both women AND men is their children and families. I would agree with that, and I'm neither Catholic nor a "trad wife," whatever that is.

Dp- yeah not to the men. Just the ladies. Men have important things to do.

Actually, this is what he said about men. Can't say I disagree with him.

"As I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation can be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well."

Liar.