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Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

Public high school ppl. Truly, everything is high school dependent

The magnet program DC was in rivals any top private HS.

Yep, but clearly other things not going for him from that school....most privates had an insane year this year....
I'm so sorry but hopefully he finds his place/ppl wherever he ends up.....

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Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

Where is your DC now?

Interesting that one of these kids said to parents, "it's different now." My experience has been that parents don't recognize that "it's different now" and grossly overestimate how easy it will be for their kid to get into their Ivy/T20 school. Legacy can def help, but it is not a couple pounds on the scale. Perhaps a light touch of a finger, but that's it. Of course there are legacy exceptions for prominent families, major donors, etc.

Just curious what this kid thinks "is different now."

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Anonymous wrote:DC has a 3.6 and very high aspirations. I think he needs to look at Top 50 as his reaches but I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about. So just checking here out of curiosity to see if I'm really that off base. Can he get into a Top 20 with a 3.6?

T20 - No.
T50 - Absolutely!

3.6 from our private gets in to Wake ED; NYU ED2; Case (EA - lots of interest); and possibly
Lehigh
Bucknell
(depending on who else is applying)

WF is a 3.8 at our private's SCOIR/Naviance data. No 3.6 have been admitted in at least 5 years.

I can add that Lehigh and Bucknell are definitely possible. Bucknell goes down to a 3.3-3.4 with ED (in the past 2 years). Lehigh similar.

Wake is not. Emory is not. Those are 3.75+ schools, even with ED (from our private school.)

Private is not worth it if you can't even get into Wake Forest with a 3.8 that you had to work for. That said there is nothing wrong with Bucknell or Lehigh and those are good schools for engineering, but still feel for a kid who had to work his but off and parents who paid 200 K to say their kid is going to Bucknell.

When that kid graduates from Bucknell his parents will get to say he's working on The Street and getting that bag.

? because every Bucknell grad gets a high paying job on The Street?

It does have a rep as a feeder, so there's that.

but, 1. not every grad gets a job on the Street and 2. OP's DC wants to major in engineering.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

Public high school ppl. Truly, everything is high school dependent

The magnet program DC was in rivals any top private HS.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has a 3.6 and very high aspirations. I think he needs to look at Top 50 as his reaches but I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about. So just checking here out of curiosity to see if I'm really that off base. Can he get into a Top 20 with a 3.6?

T20 - No.
T50 - Absolutely!

3.6 from our private gets in to Wake ED; NYU ED2; Case (EA - lots of interest); and possibly
Lehigh
Bucknell
(depending on who else is applying)

WF is a 3.8 at our private's SCOIR/Naviance data. No 3.6 have been admitted in at least 5 years.

I can add that Lehigh and Bucknell are definitely possible. Bucknell goes down to a 3.3-3.4 with ED (in the past 2 years). Lehigh similar.

Wake is not. Emory is not. Those are 3.75+ schools, even with ED (from our private school.)

Private is not worth it if you can't even get into Wake Forest with a 3.8 that you had to work for. That said there is nothing wrong with Bucknell or Lehigh and those are good schools for engineering, but still feel for a kid who had to work his but off and parents who paid 200 K to say their kid is going to Bucknell.

When that kid graduates from Bucknell his parents will get to say he's working on The Street and getting that bag.

? because every Bucknell grad gets a high paying job on The Street?

It does have a rep as a feeder, so there's that.

Things you have going for you:
- private school (use your college counselor)
- ambitious kid who hopefully knows he's got to kick some as* on the standardized tests and write amazing essays
- hire private essay coaches this summer

Things against you:
- major selection (change that if you can asap)
- are there a lot of kids in class competing against each other/"clustering" for ED choice? If so, that will backfire.

3.6 from our non-DMV private gets into Fordham this year easily (business)…

3.6 if you are at a school allowing endless retakes is is not ideal. 3.6 unweighted meaning your weighted is much higher from a school that doesn’t allow endless retests is a good number. So much goes into college applications. What classes did you take and did you take those sort all the way the way through. Less focus on freshman grades. Activities and your recommendations. I feel for first time parents who read these threads.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

Public high school ppl. Truly, everything is high school dependent

Anonymous wrote:My son had 3.95, many APs and a lot of experience in a field uncommon for guys. Lots of honors. Rejected by Fordham.

It may be worth it to work with an SAT or ACT tutor or writing coach for essays who can share the experiences of their other clients with your teenager.

Private high school or public?

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Anonymous wrote:DC has a 3.6 and very high aspirations. I think he needs to look at Top 50 as his reaches but I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about. So just checking here out of curiosity to see if I'm really that off base. Can he get into a Top 20 with a 3.6?

T20 - No.
T50 - Absolutely!

3.6 from our private gets in to Wake ED; NYU ED2; Case (EA - lots of interest); and possibly
Lehigh
Bucknell
(depending on who else is applying)

WF is a 3.8 at our private's SCOIR/Naviance data. No 3.6 have been admitted in at least 5 years.

I can add that Lehigh and Bucknell are definitely possible. Bucknell goes down to a 3.3-3.4 with ED (in the past 2 years). Lehigh similar.

Wake is not. Emory is not. Those are 3.75+ schools, even with ED (from our private school.)

Private is not worth it if you can't even get into Wake Forest with a 3.8 that you had to work for. That said there is nothing wrong with Bucknell or Lehigh and those are good schools for engineering, but still feel for a kid who had to work his but off and parents who paid 200 K to say their kid is going to Bucknell.

When that kid graduates from Bucknell his parents will get to say he's working on The Street and getting that bag.

? because every Bucknell grad gets a high paying job on The Street?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

Joke's on him. He likely won't be admitted to UMD with a 3.6. They care about the numbers and like high GPA.

+1 especially for engineering. I know several magnet students with higher GPAs who got rejected to UMD for eng/CS.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has a 3.6 and very high aspirations. I think he needs to look at Top 50 as his reaches but I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about. So just checking here out of curiosity to see if I'm really that off base. Can he get into a Top 20 with a 3.6?

T20 - No.
T50 - Absolutely!

3.6 from our private gets in to Wake ED; NYU ED2; Case (EA - lots of interest); and possibly
Lehigh
Bucknell
(depending on who else is applying)

WF is a 3.8 at our private's SCOIR/Naviance data. No 3.6 have been admitted in at least 5 years.

I can add that Lehigh and Bucknell are definitely possible. Bucknell goes down to a 3.3-3.4 with ED (in the past 2 years). Lehigh similar.

Wake is not. Emory is not. Those are 3.75+ schools, even with ED (from our private school.)

Private is not worth it if you can't even get into Wake Forest with a 3.8 that you had to work for. That said there is nothing wrong with Bucknell or Lehigh and those are good schools for engineering, but still feel for a kid who had to work his but off and parents who paid 200 K to say their kid is going to Bucknell.

When that kid graduates from Bucknell his parents will get to say he's working on The Street and getting that bag.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try:
Case Western
NYU
Tufts (ED?)
Lehigh
Wake
Santa Clara

This is a good list. Thank you...

I had brought up NYU for ED. I also mentioned he look into UMD and AU and he guffawed like I had insulted him. I hope his college counselor gives him more hard truths in the Fall so he hears it from someone else.

he's in for a rude awakening. Same thing happened to my DC, magnet 4.0 uwpga, 4.92 wgpa, 1580 SAT kid. Thought they would get into some T20. Nope. They didn't listen to me, either.

My son had 3.95, many APs and a lot of experience in a field uncommon for guys. Lots of honors. Rejected by Fordham.

It may be worth it to work with an SAT or ACT tutor or writing coach for essays who can share the experiences of their other clients with your teenager.