Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Sorry, but protests are happening in Canada and the UK. McGill and Oxford already have protests going on.
Seriously, though, this is what students do. They protest, and when you have very large protests that happen internationally, you should listen. Students were not wrong about Vietnam or South Africa, even though at the time students were criticized by people probably like you for being naive, unpatriotic, hypocritical, etc.

Me? I wasn't even alive then. Go to politics. Stop being nasty here

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Anonymous wrote:My son has been accepted to a couple Ivy League schools and I just wanted to hear opinions from others, what are some of the benefits of an Ivy over another top 50 school?

For those who need FA, ivy FA is better than 2nd tier FA. I couldn't afford WashU, Rice, USC, Vandy, Emory, Duke, NU, NYU... As good as the 2nd tier schools are, no reason to pay more for them than ivies. Choosing an affordable ivy plus school on small savings and cash flow over 2nd tier schools didn't ruin my kid's life.

False as a generalization. Ivies don't offer much merit or financial aid because they don't have. Also the Ivy institutin doesn't control the process for 90% of the time. In inorder get the composition of incoming class right (in their social engineering view). Harvard, for example, does NOT give great merit.

Now what the Ivies DO offer is some great scholarships if household income is very low. Go look it up. It's so low that it's irrelevant for most posters here.

Finally, re Ivy financial aid, the Ivies have no choice in how the applicant is assessed via CSS or so have little autonomy, which OP seems to think they do. Those in the know rely on on collegeconfidential or reddit.

Law schools do care just about GPA and LSAT, but a 4.0 from a top college is probably worth a bit more than a 4.0 at a lower-ranked school, absent other personal considerations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Sorry, but protests are happening in Canada and the UK. McGill and Oxford already have protests going on.
Seriously, though, this is what students do. They protest, and when you have very large protests that happen internationally, you should listen. Students were not wrong about Vietnam or South Africa, even though at the time students were criticized by people probably like you for being naive, unpatriotic, hypocritical, etc.

You are very naive about what is and what is not going on. The Viet nam protests were not violent (with the exception of Kent State) and did not involve anti-semitism! And, no that's "not what students do". Have you not seen the outtakes about the incredibly hateful/death threats that the anti-palestinian groups are using?

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

When you take a deep dive into the outcomes, and your kid has sights set on T14 law or a top md-phd or startup boosts, you can see that ivies/ivy+ do in fact give a boost and are significantly overrepresented within these outcomes. An education with that peer group is second to none. It was true in my day and is still true with my kids at their schools. It opens doors wide even for average kids who attend.

You are wrong. Law schools now only care about GPa and LSAT. Period (ok first generation and URM too). They don't give a fig about where your kid went do and you get no boost? Why? because the stats used to be sent by all law schools to USNWR. Since USNWR valued highly GPA and test scores those schools who could prove high stats on both were rewarded with a higher ranking

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Anonymous wrote:I think Ivy outcomes are about to take a nose-dive. Students only admitted under test optional policies or because they checked certain “woke” boxes will tarnish the Ivy rep (see post above with Hamas-supporter requesting food delivery to protestors). Students engaging in antisemitism will be blacklisted. So if the “education” doesn’t seem top tier anymore and is, in fact, indoctrination and anti-American, I am hoping more families with means will opt out. Maybe this will force a correction in tuition. We can only hope!

Well
Affirmative action was ousted and they are bringing back scores.

you are wrong about afffirm action. Both my slac and law school (and all other institutions i kniw iif) sent out letters post scotus devision about oledge to diversity. the battle has just moved from a box to a more sleight-of-hand expansion in the essay. Roberts said that was ok so thats now where students talk about race etc

Yes but the URM kids getting in this year everywhere are not the ones whose parents are both bankers and doctors, but rather the first generation kids whose dad is the janitor at the private school.

There’s been a big shift. And at least at our private a lot of white and Asian kids are having stellar results because of it.

Anonymous wrote:My son has been accepted to a couple Ivy League schools and I just wanted to hear opinions from others, what are some of the benefits of an Ivy over another top 50 school?

For those who need FA, ivy FA is better than 2nd tier FA. I couldn't afford WashU, Rice, USC, Vandy, Emory, Duke, NU, NYU... As good as the 2nd tier schools are, no reason to pay more for them than ivies. Choosing an affordable ivy plus school on small savings and cash flow over 2nd tier schools didn't ruin my kid's life.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Ivy outcomes are about to take a nose-dive. Students only admitted under test optional policies or because they checked certain “woke” boxes will tarnish the Ivy rep (see post above with Hamas-supporter requesting food delivery to protestors). Students engaging in antisemitism will be blacklisted. So if the “education” doesn’t seem top tier anymore and is, in fact, indoctrination and anti-American, I am hoping more families with means will opt out. Maybe this will force a correction in tuition. We can only hope!

Well
Affirmative action was ousted and they are bringing back scores.

you are wrong about afffirm action. Both my slac and law school (and all other institutions i kniw iif) sent out letters post scotus devision about oledge to diversity. the battle has just moved from a box to a more sleight-of-hand expansion in the essay. Roberts said that was ok so thats now where students talk about race etc

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things --

Most Ivy League schools are quite pleasant places to go to school. Not too big, not too small and in nice locations with great professors.

Second, it does matter in terms of getting jobs. My DS went to Brown and I think it helped him stand out when he applied for jobs and get that first interview, which is the most important step in any job search. He noted that it opened doors.

Yup more than any Ivy this or that, many of them are a popular size and located near popular cities. And that also helps attract strong faculty. Sometimes it just isn’t that complicated.

Sorry to complicate your shallow thinking, but only one Ivy is close to a city that is worth a crap (Boston). And that area is expensive even for senior faculty.

So NYC doesn’t qualify? Please, send us your list of Top 10 cities worth a crap for us to critique.

Anonymous wrote:I think Ivy outcomes are about to take a nose-dive. Students only admitted under test optional policies or because they checked certain “woke” boxes will tarnish the Ivy rep (see post above with Hamas-supporter requesting food delivery to protestors). Students engaging in antisemitism will be blacklisted. So if the “education” doesn’t seem top tier anymore and is, in fact, indoctrination and anti-American, I am hoping more families with means will opt out. Maybe this will force a correction in tuition. We can only hope!

Well
Affirmative action was ousted and they are bringing back scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy shills here are as convincing as the dorks repeating chants at Columbia.

Que the "sorry your kid didn't get in" loser in 3...2...1

But we are sorry your kid didn't get in.

Yale gave us a lot more money than Davidson , Michigan, and wash u. Sorry, not paying more NOT to send my kid there.

You mean “cue”? Moron.

Anonymous wrote:Ivy shills here are as convincing as the dorks repeating chants at Columbia.

Que the "sorry your kid didn't get in" loser in 3...2...1

Ivy shills here are as convincing as the dorks repeating chants at Columbia.