Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of bad actors. Online trolls trying to persuade American voters.

There will be no 2028 dem nominee if you sit out to “teach them a lesson”. You may think you’re being altruistic but you’re actually being naive and self-centered. And it will harm America.

If you think that change the unpopular policy that is driving down Biden’s polls in key states he needs to win. New York(7%), New Jersey(6%) and DC(5%) are the only states with higher than 5% Jewish populations. They are safe blue states. Every other state is 3% and less and are not in play. Biden can not even bring himself to call for a ceasefire. He is actively giving the finger to his base. Stop being stupid and make the correct political call.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of bad actors. Online trolls trying to persuade American voters.

There will be no 2028 dem nominee if you sit out to “teach them a lesson”. You may think you’re being altruistic but you’re actually being naive and self-centered. And it will harm America.

So you think Trump will outlaw elections? How will he do that?

That’s not how it works. The outcome is just pre-determined. It has the appearance of a real election, but it’s not. Remember “do not congratulate”? And good luck “sticking it to the man” by voting for the opposition. You’re watched forever and well, if you’re at all informed about politics, you know what happens to the opposition, unfortunately.

OK you think New York and California are going to let Trump “pre determine” the outcome of their state-run elections? Really? Are you new to the constitution?

Your naïveté is almost cute.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

And so it's easily seen. That the US is no longer a democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:He's made it clear he's in full support of what ever Netanyahu does

Not sure what else you want him to say.

He's not likely going to make any sort of a statement about protests because it will be used against him politically.

This is going to lose him the election.

No, spoiled cowardly brats in Ivy League colleges don't play well with ordinary working class people,many of whom have children in the military. People like you and those demonstrating will never lift a finger in armed combat just like your "cadet bone spur" who evaded Viet Nam.

I am not a Jew but Israel was attacked and has every right to retaliate. Human should have given more thought to their barbaric attack.

Says the Kent State defender.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of bad actors. Online trolls trying to persuade American voters.

There will be no 2028 dem nominee if you sit out to “teach them a lesson”. You may think you’re being altruistic but you’re actually being naive and self-centered. And it will harm America.

So you think Trump will outlaw elections? How will he do that?

That’s not how it works. The outcome is just pre-determined. It has the appearance of a real election, but it’s not. Remember “do not congratulate”? And good luck “sticking it to the man” by voting for the opposition. You’re watched forever and well, if you’re at all informed about politics, you know what happens to the opposition, unfortunately.

OK you think New York and California are going to let Trump “pre determine” the outcome of their state-run elections? Really? Are you new to the constitution?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of bad actors. Online trolls trying to persuade American voters.

There will be no 2028 dem nominee if you sit out to “teach them a lesson”. You may think you’re being altruistic but you’re actually being naive and self-centered. And it will harm America.

So you think Trump will outlaw elections? How will he do that?

That’s not how it works. The outcome is just pre-determined. It has the appearance of a real election, but it’s not. Remember “do not congratulate”? And good luck “sticking it to the man” by voting for the opposition. You’re watched forever and well, if you’re at all informed about politics, you know what happens to the opposition, unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

Vietnam policy changed.
South Africa faced sanctions.
College students protest…and things change.

In order for things in Israel/Gaza to change, the Israelis themselves will need to protest and be agents of change. International pressure has not influenced Netanyahu, it needs to come from within.

South Africa changed because a small country can not survive international boycotts if they wish to maintain a high standard of living

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Anonymous wrote:Should this not be something Biden should be updating the American public?

No. Why do you think he should? US foreign policy is not dictated by entitled college kids living on Daddy's $$$$ and who have never, and will never, serve their county in the military or in any other way. The frightening aspect is that many of these dilatantes will be in positions of authority and national importance some day.

The Viet Nam demonstrations did influence national politics and the upshot was that we got Nixon. I must admit that Nixon was a kindergartener compared to Trump but that's another story.

I'm so tired of idiots like you. These kids are on the right side of history. The behavior of the government of Israel is not defensible. They are committing war crimes in Gaza. The events of 10/7 were horrific, but they do not justify the continued slaughter of innocent Gazans. These students have the right intentions and are quite brave.

What is disgusting is a hypocritical GOP that supports anti-Semitic white supremacists on one side but are quite happy to use this situation to undermine higher education and try to score political points in an election year. They are absolutely full of BS and don't really give two hoots about any Israelis or Jews or higher education. They just want political power and Trump in the Presidency. Disgusting hypocritical charlatans and so many of you fall for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

Vietnam policy changed.
South Africa faced sanctions.
College students protest…and things change.

Check your history of Vietnam.

College student protests probably escalated/prolonged the war by helping to elect Nixon in '68.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat but align ideologically with the Republicans and centrist/more conservative Democrats on this issue. I will vote for Biden but I’m going to vote differently in some of the other elections. I 100% support Israel. They’re the only democracy in the Middle East and they were barbarically attacked. I think there is going to be a lot of lane switching and politics shifting happening across the board. I think that’s good. People need to vote on issues rather than pick a party. Now if only the moderate Republicans and moderate non-progressive Democrats could get together and disempower both the pro Hamas mob and the right wing extremists that would be great. Extremism is bad for the country, from either direction.

Democracies aren't ruled by a criminal despot or right wing religious zealots.

The US was in 2017-2020 and was still considered a democracy.

In January 2017, the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU)’s Democracy Index demoted the United States from “full democracy” to “flawed democracy.”
https://www.vanderbilt.edu/lapop/news/022317.US-WashingtonPost.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

Vietnam policy changed.
South Africa faced sanctions.
College students protest…and things change.

In order for things in Israel/Gaza to change, the Israelis themselves will need to protest and be agents of change. International pressure has not influenced Netanyahu, it needs to come from within.

As South Africa did. Yes. And the U.S. and global community played a role by sanctioning the apartheid government.

The U.S. can stop giving billions of dollars to Israel while expecting college students to live with six figure loans. College students are less dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

Vietnam policy changed.
South Africa faced sanctions.
College students protest…and things change.

In order for things in Israel/Gaza to change, the Israelis themselves will need to protest and be agents of change. International pressure has not influenced Netanyahu, it needs to come from within.

It’s a no win situation whatever he says or does.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

This precisely. It’s a sacrifice for a better future. As in the one those students have to live in.

Hopelessly naive. College students aren’t voting on Israel/Gaza. They protest. That’s what college kids do. That’s what I did. US policy in Israel isn’t changing regardless of party is in power.

Vietnam policy changed.
South Africa faced sanctions.
College students protest…and things change.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat but align ideologically with the Republicans and centrist/more conservative Democrats on this issue. I will vote for Biden but I’m going to vote differently in some of the other elections. I 100% support Israel. They’re the only democracy in the Middle East and they were barbarically attacked. I think there is going to be a lot of lane switching and politics shifting happening across the board. I think that’s good. People need to vote on issues rather than pick a party. Now if only the moderate Republicans and moderate non-progressive Democrats could get together and disempower both the pro Hamas mob and the right wing extremists that would be great. Extremism is bad for the country, from either direction.

Democracies aren't ruled by a criminal despot or right wing religious zealots.

The US was in 2017-2020 and was still considered a democracy.