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Post 04/07/2024 14:07     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

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Anonymous wrote:The eggs + cholesterol thing is mostly a disproven myth. Eggs are incredibly healthy, the issue comes from people eating eggs with bacon or eggs with sausage etc.

Anyways, it sounds pretty healthy. Tons of protein, some carbs, some fat, and some fruit. Better than most american breakfasts!


Actually it isn’t a myth. While most heathy people without any heart issue or high risk for heart issues can eat eggs daily, I believe the recommended amount is to keep it around 7 eggs/ week, assuming you are also eating other meats and dairy. 4 eggs every day is a lot. I wouldn’t poo poo that as totally fine, especially for a middle aged man.

OP, just encourage him to get yearly physicals and blood work, like everyone should be doing over 40. If cholesterol starts rising, or BP, or anything concerning with heart comes up, time to dial back the eggs.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989358/



Another credible analysis that finds correlation between long-term high egg consumption (3 per day) and increased cholesterol and increased risk for cardiovascular disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7400894/


Thanks for this. I’m the high risk diabetes poster. I don’t understand why high egg consumption is considered healthy.

Still no link between diabetes? This is regarding cardiovascular disease.


I posted the links to the articles about diabetes. The takeaway is that people who are high-risk should limit egg consumption. And even if that weren't true, how is consuming high amounts of something that can increase cardiovascular risk for anyone a good thing?


“Intervention studies have shown that moderate egg consumption doesn’t appreciably raise cholesterol levels,” Dr. Hu said. “Low to moderate consumption of three or four eggs a week doesn’t appear to have a major effect on blood cholesterol unless the person has high cholesterol or Type 2 diabetes.”

I’m not sure this article is saying what you think it does


Because over 3 eggs per day DOES show increased cardiovascular risk and increased cholesterol. Low-moderate egg consumption is 1 egg daily, maybe 2. Not 4

‘Unless the person has high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes’
Not high risk
The lack of study doesn’t automatically confirm your hypothesis. The study was done on 3-4 eggs a week and didn’t show general correlation. You don’t know what the study would say for 3-4 eggs a day, because that isn’t what this study is about.

Goodness did you bother to read this study? It still doesn’t say what you’re trying to make it say.


That user wasn’t me. I’m the high risk poster who cited the study. If something is bad for people with type 2 diabetes then I assume it’s bad for me as someone with high risk type 2. You are being weird about this. You can eat all the eggs you want. I however believe that following the Mediterranean diet (no refined carbs and limited saturated fat) is best. Plus being thin is important to me.


But what does this have to do with OP's husband?

Also, thinness should never be a goal itself.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2024 13:58     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

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Anonymous wrote:If his cholesterol and LDL numbers are in range, it's fine.


This. My dad does the same. He's 92 and in great health. My mom has a family history of heart disease. One egg for breakfast will mess up her bloodwork.

Genetics are powerful.


+1. All these studies are done to find advice to give to the "average" person. But no person is average. You are you. Find out what works for you and don't worry about what everyone else is doing.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2024 13:47     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

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Anonymous wrote:The eggs + cholesterol thing is mostly a disproven myth. Eggs are incredibly healthy, the issue comes from people eating eggs with bacon or eggs with sausage etc.

Anyways, it sounds pretty healthy. Tons of protein, some carbs, some fat, and some fruit. Better than most american breakfasts!


Actually it isn’t a myth. While most heathy people without any heart issue or high risk for heart issues can eat eggs daily, I believe the recommended amount is to keep it around 7 eggs/ week, assuming you are also eating other meats and dairy. 4 eggs every day is a lot. I wouldn’t poo poo that as totally fine, especially for a middle aged man.

OP, just encourage him to get yearly physicals and blood work, like everyone should be doing over 40. If cholesterol starts rising, or BP, or anything concerning with heart comes up, time to dial back the eggs.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989358/



Another credible analysis that finds correlation between long-term high egg consumption (3 per day) and increased cholesterol and increased risk for cardiovascular disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7400894/


Thanks for this. I’m the high risk diabetes poster. I don’t understand why high egg consumption is considered healthy.

Still no link between diabetes? This is regarding cardiovascular disease.


I posted the links to the articles about diabetes. The takeaway is that people who are high-risk should limit egg consumption. And even if that weren't true, how is consuming high amounts of something that can increase cardiovascular risk for anyone a good thing?


“Intervention studies have shown that moderate egg consumption doesn’t appreciably raise cholesterol levels,” Dr. Hu said. “Low to moderate consumption of three or four eggs a week doesn’t appear to have a major effect on blood cholesterol unless the person has high cholesterol or Type 2 diabetes.”

I’m not sure this article is saying what you think it does


Because over 3 eggs per day DOES show increased cardiovascular risk and increased cholesterol. Low-moderate egg consumption is 1 egg daily, maybe 2. Not 4

‘Unless the person has high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes’
Not high risk
The lack of study doesn’t automatically confirm your hypothesis. The study was done on 3-4 eggs a week and didn’t show general correlation. You don’t know what the study would say for 3-4 eggs a day, because that isn’t what this study is about.

Goodness did you bother to read this study? It still doesn’t say what you’re trying to make it say.


That user wasn’t me. I’m the high risk poster who cited the study. If something is bad for people with type 2 diabetes then I assume it’s bad for me as someone with high risk type 2. You are being weird about this. You can eat all the eggs you want. I however believe that following the Mediterranean diet (no refined carbs and limited saturated fat) is best. Plus being thin is important to me.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2024 13:31     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

I eat 2 whole eggs and 2 egg whites most mornings. I also snack on the the whites of hard boiled eggs because I don’t like the yolk.
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Post 04/07/2024 11:48     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

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Anonymous wrote:The eggs + cholesterol thing is mostly a disproven myth. Eggs are incredibly healthy, the issue comes from people eating eggs with bacon or eggs with sausage etc.

Anyways, it sounds pretty healthy. Tons of protein, some carbs, some fat, and some fruit. Better than most american breakfasts!


Actually it isn’t a myth. While most heathy people without any heart issue or high risk for heart issues can eat eggs daily, I believe the recommended amount is to keep it around 7 eggs/ week, assuming you are also eating other meats and dairy. 4 eggs every day is a lot. I wouldn’t poo poo that as totally fine, especially for a middle aged man.

OP, just encourage him to get yearly physicals and blood work, like everyone should be doing over 40. If cholesterol starts rising, or BP, or anything concerning with heart comes up, time to dial back the eggs.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989358/



Another credible analysis that finds correlation between long-term high egg consumption (3 per day) and increased cholesterol and increased risk for cardiovascular disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7400894/


Thanks for this. I’m the high risk diabetes poster. I don’t understand why high egg consumption is considered healthy.

Still no link between diabetes? This is regarding cardiovascular disease.


I posted the links to the articles about diabetes. The takeaway is that people who are high-risk should limit egg consumption. And even if that weren't true, how is consuming high amounts of something that can increase cardiovascular risk for anyone a good thing?


“Intervention studies have shown that moderate egg consumption doesn’t appreciably raise cholesterol levels,” Dr. Hu said. “Low to moderate consumption of three or four eggs a week doesn’t appear to have a major effect on blood cholesterol unless the person has high cholesterol or Type 2 diabetes.”

I’m not sure this article is saying what you think it does


Because over 3 eggs per day DOES show increased cardiovascular risk and increased cholesterol. Low-moderate egg consumption is 1 egg daily, maybe 2. Not 4

‘Unless the person has high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes’
Not high risk
The lack of study doesn’t automatically confirm your hypothesis. The study was done on 3-4 eggs a week and didn’t show general correlation. You don’t know what the study would say for 3-4 eggs a day, because that isn’t what this study is about.

Goodness did you bother to read this study? It still doesn’t say what you’re trying to make it say.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2024 10:24     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

Anonymous wrote:If his cholesterol and LDL numbers are in range, it's fine.


This. My dad does the same. He's 92 and in great health. My mom has a family history of heart disease. One egg for breakfast will mess up her bloodwork.

Genetics are powerful.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2024 10:17     Subject: Husband eats 4 eggs with toast literally every morning

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Anonymous wrote:The eggs + cholesterol thing is mostly a disproven myth. Eggs are incredibly healthy, the issue comes from people eating eggs with bacon or eggs with sausage etc.

Anyways, it sounds pretty healthy. Tons of protein, some carbs, some fat, and some fruit. Better than most american breakfasts!


Actually it isn’t a myth. While most heathy people without any heart issue or high risk for heart issues can eat eggs daily, I believe the recommended amount is to keep it around 7 eggs/ week, assuming you are also eating other meats and dairy. 4 eggs every day is a lot. I wouldn’t poo poo that as totally fine, especially for a middle aged man.

OP, just encourage him to get yearly physicals and blood work, like everyone should be doing over 40. If cholesterol starts rising, or BP, or anything concerning with heart comes up, time to dial back the eggs.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989358/



Another credible analysis that finds correlation between long-term high egg consumption (3 per day) and increased cholesterol and increased risk for cardiovascular disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7400894/


Thanks for this. I’m the high risk diabetes poster. I don’t understand why high egg consumption is considered healthy.

Still no link between diabetes? This is regarding cardiovascular disease.


I posted the links to the articles about diabetes. The takeaway is that people who are high-risk should limit egg consumption. And even if that weren't true, how is consuming high amounts of something that can increase cardiovascular risk for anyone a good thing?


“Intervention studies have shown that moderate egg consumption doesn’t appreciably raise cholesterol levels,” Dr. Hu said. “Low to moderate consumption of three or four eggs a week doesn’t appear to have a major effect on blood cholesterol unless the person has high cholesterol or Type 2 diabetes.”

I’m not sure this article is saying what you think it does


Because over 3 eggs per day DOES show increased cardiovascular risk and increased cholesterol. Low-moderate egg consumption is 1 egg daily, maybe 2. Not 4