Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.
That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.
Maybe. I just don’t know anyone who would consider Michigan more prestigious than Northwestern back home in the Midwest.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.
That’s because most midwesterners aren’t elitist prestige freaks.
Anonymous wrote:It’s fascinating, Michigan’s reputation seems to be markedly stronger here in DC than back home in Michigan.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The idea that the engineering instruction at UMichigan is unequivocally better and somehow significantly superior than Northwestern is so misleading. Consider costs, of course, but at this level, the individual pros/cons of each school. Private/public, size of classes, research opportunities, post-grad opportunities and goals, et cetera.
There have got to be a bunch of Michigan parents on this board, it's getting ridiculous.
Perhaps it’s just ridiculous that so many here lump Michigan with other state schools. Nobody is saying that U-M is significantly better than NU, it’s just that too many posters are saying that NU is better simply because it’s a private school.
I went to Michigan. My extended family collectively holds about 9 Michigan degrees. Northwestern is largely considered the better school, even in Michigan and among Michigan alumni.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say my kid is going to UMich and the undergrad math education is very tough. Majors have high math requirements and many students try and take math at community colleges to avoid the first two years of math—through linear algebra.
My kid is busy taking Nova CC classes to beef up on math.
If your kid is weak in math I would be careful about UMich.
Michigan math is unexceptional. Historically, the best math faculty has always been at Wisconsin. Walter Rudin, Stanislaw Ulam, R.H Bing were all members of the faculty.
It’s the Wisconsin booster again talking last century. Let’s see what USNWR has to say about Michigan mathematics:
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings
Michigan. #11
Wisconsin #16
Just another discipline where Michigan bests Wisconsin.
More results:
https://edurank.org/math/us/
Michigan #3
Wisconsin #14
I could go on and on, but it won’t change results.
Are those really all that different in ranking? They seem close enough to be equal. Also, completely off topic. However I will say, as an academic myself, that Wisconsin without a doubt has had very impactful departments, and it is generally regarded that Wisconsin is better for most "standard subjects". However, I believe Michigan is better for professional schools, like law. The fact that Michigan seems to struggle in hiring important professors shows some issue in their academic culture, I've personally heard they have a toxic culture among their PHD students in many subjects. Look at Brian Leiter's reports for referencing.
Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering
Anonymous wrote:lol, you say it like it's just a matter of paying tuitionAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick? Worth noting: student is in-state for Michigan tuition,
Majoring in engineering
Your in state so you know what you're getting with U of M. I'd go with Michigan and then to MIT/Caltech for grad school with all the money you saved.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan 100%
Obvious troll post
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The idea that the engineering instruction at UMichigan is unequivocally better and somehow significantly superior than Northwestern is so misleading. Consider costs, of course, but at this level, the individual pros/cons of each school. Private/public, size of classes, research opportunities, post-grad opportunities and goals, et cetera.
There have got to be a bunch of Michigan parents on this board, it's getting ridiculous.
Perhaps it’s just ridiculous that so many here lump Michigan with other state schools. Nobody is saying that U-M is significantly better than NU, it’s just that too many posters are saying that NU is better simply because it’s a private school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say my kid is going to UMich and the undergrad math education is very tough. Majors have high math requirements and many students try and take math at community colleges to avoid the first two years of math—through linear algebra.
My kid is busy taking Nova CC classes to beef up on math.
If your kid is weak in math I would be careful about UMich.
Michigan math is unexceptional. Historically, the best math faculty has always been at Wisconsin. Walter Rudin, Stanislaw Ulam, R.H Bing were all members of the faculty.
It’s the Wisconsin booster again talking last century. Let’s see what USNWR has to say about Michigan mathematics:
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings
Michigan. #11
Wisconsin #16
Just another discipline where Michigan bests Wisconsin.
More results:
https://edurank.org/math/us/
Michigan #3
Wisconsin #14
I could go on and on, but it won’t change results.
Anonymous wrote:DC is choosing between Northwestern vs Cornell engineering. About 400 enrolled first year engineering at Norhwestern vs 850 enrolled first year engineering at Cornell. I did my undergrad at UCLA in engineering. Classes are enormous and you are essentially a number that pays tuition. Hard to get research opportunities with professors. Most students eventually change major to traditional science or non stem because of the rigor. Going to private might give student opportunity to actually survive and finish the degree with professors help unlike in giant universities.
Anonymous wrote:Michigan 100%
Anonymous wrote:The idea that the engineering instruction at UMichigan is unequivocally better and somehow significantly superior than Northwestern is so misleading. Consider costs, of course, but at this level, the individual pros/cons of each school. Private/public, size of classes, research opportunities, post-grad opportunities and goals, et cetera.
There have got to be a bunch of Michigan parents on this board, it's getting ridiculous.