Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:15     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


It’s awkward for the adults who have to ride next to your young children. We end up stepping in for you when all we want is a quiet ride to our destination.

Of course I’m going to think of you as selfish and detached. It’s hard not to as I’m helping your child open a snack, etc.


My 10 year old knows how to open a bag of pretzels, thanks.

If you spoke to or otherwise interacted with him beyond maybe an initial head nod or “hello” when first sitting down, he’d have his guard up about you being a weirdo.


Having sat next to a kid of that age who needed my help, I can tell you it happens.

And if there’s extreme turbulence or, horrifically, an extreme change in cabin pressure, are you expecting me to fill in for you?

The whole “child before you” part of the safety presentation is supposed to be about my own children, not yours.


My kid had functioning brain cells and would know what to do. Again these are teens not toddlers. You on the other hand . . .


You mean the teens you really don't want but tolerate.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:14     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents in first are separated from their children in coach so how do they know how their children are behaving?


Uh, they check on them periodically? duh. you know we’ve got these things called legs. We can stand on them walk back ask if everything is ok and walk back again. It even helps prevent deep vein thrombosis.


So, you make other passengers uncomfortable by having to help your kids and have you hover over them in the isle so you can check in? Lazy parents at their finest.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:12     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

I think it is fine.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:12     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


It’s awkward for the adults who have to ride next to your young children. We end up stepping in for you when all we want is a quiet ride to our destination.

Of course I’m going to think of you as selfish and detached. It’s hard not to as I’m helping your child open a snack, etc.


My 10 year old knows how to open a bag of pretzels, thanks.

If you spoke to or otherwise interacted with him beyond maybe an initial head nod or “hello” when first sitting down, he’d have his guard up about you being a weirdo.


Having sat next to a kid of that age who needed my help, I can tell you it happens.

And if there’s extreme turbulence or, horrifically, an extreme change in cabin pressure, are you expecting me to fill in for you?

The whole “child before you” part of the safety presentation is supposed to be about my own children, not yours.


There is no child before you. They literally say you should put on your own mask first.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:10     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


It’s awkward for the adults who have to ride next to your young children. We end up stepping in for you when all we want is a quiet ride to our destination.

Of course I’m going to think of you as selfish and detached. It’s hard not to as I’m helping your child open a snack, etc.


My 10 year old knows how to open a bag of pretzels, thanks.

If you spoke to or otherwise interacted with him beyond maybe an initial head nod or “hello” when first sitting down, he’d have his guard up about you being a weirdo.


Having sat next to a kid of that age who needed my help, I can tell you it happens.

And if there’s extreme turbulence or, horrifically, an extreme change in cabin pressure, are you expecting me to fill in for you?

The whole “child before you” part of the safety presentation is supposed to be about my own children, not yours.


My kid had functioning brain cells and would know what to do. Again these are teens not toddlers. You on the other hand . . .
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 15:09     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Smart dad. They’re not toddlers.


Smart dad because he outsourced his kids’ needs to the people flying in economy? I don’t want to sit next to someone else’s kids. It’s going to make me feel responsible for them and I resent that.

Look, this thread is about whether people would judge. Yes, I’m going to judge.


Judge away childless Karen. The kid is 13. Not a baby.


Yeah, I’m not childless. I have two kids around that age.

I have different values, I suppose. Better ones.


Ok troll. You’re better than us. You win.


Look, this is a thread asking if people would judge. The answer is yes.

If that bothers you, then maybe you realize there’s something a bit off about dumping your kids in economy.

If it doesn’t bother you, [/b]then why respond? [b]You don’t care.


To f with you. DGAF. Judge away from 32B.


Was that an insult? I get to the same destination as you at a fraction of the cost. 32B isn’t the insult you think it is.

And it’s clear you do “GAF”


You’ve clearly never been in the front.

We judge you for being poor. Or cheap.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:33     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


It’s awkward for the adults who have to ride next to your young children. We end up stepping in for you when all we want is a quiet ride to our destination.

Of course I’m going to think of you as selfish and detached. It’s hard not to as I’m helping your child open a snack, etc.


My 10 year old knows how to open a bag of pretzels, thanks.

If you spoke to or otherwise interacted with him beyond maybe an initial head nod or “hello” when first sitting down, he’d have his guard up about you being a weirdo.


Having sat next to a kid of that age who needed my help, I can tell you it happens.

And if there’s extreme turbulence or, horrifically, an extreme change in cabin pressure, are you expecting me to fill in for you?

The whole “child before you” part of the safety presentation is supposed to be about my own children, not yours.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:23     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did none of you fly when you were teens? I had to deal with harassment on flights and I would never subject my young daughters to that without me nearby.


So if you sat nearby you would subject them to harassment. Weird.


I flew when I was a teenager and was never harassed on an airplane. Sorry that happened to you - nobody deserves that.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:23     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


It’s awkward for the adults who have to ride next to your young children. We end up stepping in for you when all we want is a quiet ride to our destination.

Of course I’m going to think of you as selfish and detached. It’s hard not to as I’m helping your child open a snack, etc.


My 10 year old knows how to open a bag of pretzels, thanks.

If you spoke to or otherwise interacted with him beyond maybe an initial head nod or “hello” when first sitting down, he’d have his guard up about you being a weirdo.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:20     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

I’d have no problem at all if it was a small plane w 2-seat rows. As with everything else, the “but what if there’s a perv nearby!?” question lingers. But otherwise, leg room for Dad, and super fun for the sisters to feel like grown-ups, unmonitored in their own seats!

This also sounds like something my fam would do. They would give us the choice between sitting in first w parents, or getting to be cool and by ourselves for a short flight, and spending that money saved on something fun at the destination.

Either way, I’m not sure I agree that the 4-foot-whatever 7-yr old can equally appreciate the difference between having the extra space and complimentary champagne or not.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:15     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not cool. I would not leave young kids and/or tween/teen girls on their own on a plane.

Here's a more heart-warming story: I was on a flight from CA yesterday. Across the aisle, the husband in an older South Asian couple was offered an upgrade to first class. He said no and tried to get his wife to take the seat. She said no too. They both wound up staying in their window/middle seats in economy.


Waaaat they sound like martyrs. Older so no young kids to take care of and presumably married for a while… they should not need to be attached at the hip!!


As a South Asian myself, what they did does not surprise me at all. It’s a cultural thing.


No surprise there
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:12     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:As a family, we have been separated on planes, but always in coach where I could keep an eye on them. My concern is for the weirdo creepers that take advantage of unsupervised children.


I don’t worry about that, mine has been going alone since six years old. But when we fly together we fly together
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:10     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone take issue with this? The kids aren’t infants. They’re 40 feet away at most, in an enclosed space.

We have our kids fly First/Business with us when we can, but often (particularly on domestic flights) there won’t be enough seats available. Kids get demoted first. They’re small, know how to fly/behave, and again—not infants who need a parent nearby.


This.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:09     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:Parents in first are separated from their children in coach so how do they know how their children are behaving?


Uh, they check on them periodically? duh. you know we’ve got these things called legs. We can stand on them walk back ask if everything is ok and walk back again. It even helps prevent deep vein thrombosis.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2024 13:09     Subject: Dad rides in first while two young daughters ride in coach.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I took a flight to Orlando today and there was a dad who sat in first class while his two daughters, around ages 11-13 and 7-9 sat midway back in coach. I can’t help but judge this dad harshly, and thought that you might want to join in.
Yuck, forces the older one to be the parent.


You are very judgmental. My kids ask to fly alone when they go to camp because they like feeling independent. The kids in this case might have wanted to sit by themselves - you don’t know - yet you judge very harshly. Don’t worry when your kids are adults and they still cannot do things by themselves because you never gave them the independence - society will judge you harshly too.


As if this is the only way to help children become independent?