Anonymous
03/15/2024 12:11
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we were looking for solutions, what do we think MCPS should do when it comes to grading?
Create year-long courses, add pluses and minuses to the grading, and have the final grade be the average of the four marking period percentage.
Offer on level and honors for all core classes. None of this honors for all in English, social studies, and science.
This is really the answer. What a shock it would be!
Or at least offer more Honors for All classes! It's so wonderful to boost everyone to a higher standard.
I am not sure how they would offer more honors for all. Next year at BCC even biology is honors for all.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:56
Subject: Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:My DD came home today and told me that her teacher told her that grade inflation is really rampant in MCPS and that he is told to grade really leniently and that it is really hard for someone to fail. He says that it is so bad that colleges will flag an application once they see it is from MCPS and make sure to look deeper into what classes they took to see how rigorous it is to make sure they really deserved that 4.0 gpa. Not sure how true this is, has anyone else heard about this?
She was told wrong. This isn't a real problem. Please return to complaining about start times or toilet security...
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:48
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we were looking for solutions, what do we think MCPS should do when it comes to grading?
Create year-long courses, add pluses and minuses to the grading, and have the final grade be the average of the four marking period percentage.
Offer on level and honors for all core classes. None of this honors for all in English, social studies, and science.
This is really the answer. What a shock it would be!
Or at least offer more Honors for All classes! It's so wonderful to boost everyone to a higher standard.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:47
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
Who cares what FCPS does? What law says they cannot round up?
MCPS does round up and that's it.
End of story.
That is exactly what people are complaining about--MCPS's policies make grades largely meaningless. It means the way kids can distinguish themselves is with SAT/ACT/AP exam scores.
Who's really complaining? DCUM and agitators
Exactly, this isn't a real problem. It just goes against the premise that schools are kid prisons which these posters are fond of...
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:10
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we were looking for solutions, what do we think MCPS should do when it comes to grading?
Create year-long courses, add pluses and minuses to the grading, and have the final grade be the average of the four marking period percentage.
Offer on level and honors for all core classes. None of this honors for all in English, social studies, and science.
This is really the answer. What a shock it would be!
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:10
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
In math, not in grade point averages. And the "just a B" and "just an A" to be averaged, is exactly what I was saying... no precision. There becomes a point when grades convey no information, and your method is one of them. - HS teacher
It's not my method, it's MCPS's.
Yes, and I think if you had bothered to read the thread or even the posts you are responding to, you would understand that people are being critical of MCPS' method.
NO OP is a Troll
Every college except those religious nutbag places like Liberty and Hillsdale recalculates grades you morons.
This thread is stupid and OP is either a troll or just dumb. This is not a hard concept except for DCUM garbage.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 07:05
Subject: Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Folks need to chill. It's a race to nowhere. In my experience, HS kids today have at least 1000% more work + extracurricular expectations than the GenX parents ever had. Many are super stressed.
There are very fancy private schools with no grades at all. Grading is not an inherent part of education.
There are very fancy private schools with no grades at all. Grading is not an inherent part of education.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 06:59
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
They have to round to a whole grade. The choices are A or B. MCPS doesn't have pluses or minuses.
MCPS should have pluses and minuses. DCPS has them. Many school districts have them
The problem isn’t even plus and minus; it’s disregarding the actual numbers and focusing on quality points instead. They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers. They They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers that got them the three and the four in the first place.
So you would want there to be just two marking periods, each a semester in length.
No, we want the county to add the quarterly 79.5 and 89.5 and divide by 2, resulting in a semester average of 84.5 and a semester grade of B.
Not: rounding the 79.5 to a B and the 89.5 to an A. Then, converting those to 3 and 4. Then, averaging those to 3.5. Then, rounding up to a 4. Then, assigning a semester grade of A.
Once a marking period ends, they assign a letter grade. They could round down and assign a C and a B to those numbers instead, but then they would still have to combine those into a semester grade.
Anonymous
03/15/2024 04:27
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
They have to round to a whole grade. The choices are A or B. MCPS doesn't have pluses or minuses.
MCPS should have pluses and minuses. DCPS has them. Many school districts have them
The problem isn’t even plus and minus; it’s disregarding the actual numbers and focusing on quality points instead. They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers. They They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers that got them the three and the four in the first place.
So you would want there to be just two marking periods, each a semester in length.
No, we want the county to add the quarterly 79.5 and 89.5 and divide by 2, resulting in a semester average of 84.5 and a semester grade of B.
Not: rounding the 79.5 to a B and the 89.5 to an A. Then, converting those to 3 and 4. Then, averaging those to 3.5. Then, rounding up to a 4. Then, assigning a semester grade of A.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 21:15
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
Who cares what FCPS does? What law says they cannot round up?
MCPS does round up and that's it.
End of story.
That is exactly what people are complaining about--MCPS's policies make grades largely meaningless. It means the way kids can distinguish themselves is with SAT/ACT/AP exam scores.
Who's really complaining? DCUM and agitators
Anonymous
03/14/2024 21:13
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
In math, not in grade point averages. And the "just a B" and "just an A" to be averaged, is exactly what I was saying... no precision. There becomes a point when grades convey no information, and your method is one of them. - HS teacher
It's not my method, it's MCPS's.
Yes, and I think if you had bothered to read the thread or even the posts you are responding to, you would understand that people are being critical of MCPS' method.
I am well aware of that, thanks. I was explaining how their method works because some PPs seemed to be making incorrect assumptions.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 20:50
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
In math, not in grade point averages. And the "just a B" and "just an A" to be averaged, is exactly what I was saying... no precision. There becomes a point when grades convey no information, and your method is one of them. - HS teacher
It's not my method, it's MCPS's.
Yes, and I think if you had bothered to read the thread or even the posts you are responding to, you would understand that people are being critical of MCPS' method.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 17:58
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
Who cares what FCPS does? What law says they cannot round up?
MCPS does round up and that's it.
End of story.
That is exactly what people are complaining about--MCPS's policies make grades largely meaningless. It means the way kids can distinguish themselves is with SAT/ACT/AP exam scores.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 17:36
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
They have to round to a whole grade. The choices are A or B. MCPS doesn't have pluses or minuses.
MCPS should have pluses and minuses. DCPS has them. Many school districts have them
The problem isn’t even plus and minus; it’s disregarding the actual numbers and focusing on quality points instead. They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers. They They shouldn’t be adding 3+4 and dividing by two. They should be adding the numbers that got them the three and the four in the first place.
So you would want there to be just two marking periods, each a semester in length.
Anonymous
03/14/2024 17:33
Subject: Re:Colleges Flagging MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the goal of school to have students learn and demonstrate learning? If so, does it matter if there's a retake?
It matters because it makes my child look less competitive.
DP. The bigger problem is that kids can score low and still get an A. In what works is a 79.5 plus 89.5 an A?
In the world where people learn about rounding up.
Try it
Even if you round up, that is an 85, which is a B.
Any .5 is rounded up.
A 79.5 for MP1 rounds to an 80, which is a B, or 3 quality points.
An 89.5 for MP2 rounds to a 90, which is an A, or 4 quality points.
For a total of 7 quality points for the semester, divided by 2 is 3.5, which rounds up to 4, which is an A.
That seems fair. Maybe these kids need to sign up for harder classes.
No, this is ridiculous on a 4 point scale. No precision, which is exactly what people are complaining about. A low B and a low A average to a B.
There's just a B and an A to be averaged. You have to round up or down. It's pretty standard practice to round up at .5
What law says they have to round to a whole number? FCPS doesn't.
I'm personally in favor of 4.0 for all, not because I think it's right, but because I'm an accelerationist and GPA is a fundamentally unworkable concept of a false metric that need to be eliminated.
They have to round to a whole grade. The choices are A or B. MCPS doesn't have pluses or minuses.
And yet the rest of the country doesn’t have this oddity of a “problem.”
It's not that odd to not use plus or minus on report cards.