I mean, some schools aren't "weak" in engineering so much as the focus of the school is in other areas. BC's engineering program is a fledgling program. It isn't weak, it isn't just as mature as BU's or NEU's. Given time, and the repuation of the school, it will be a fine program. I'm sure engineering graduates there will find no problem finding a job, or conituning in academia.

And why only the top 50 schools? There are plenty of "normal" schools with incredible resources for engineering. Not everything has to be a rankings game.

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Anonymous wrote:Typically, the students who get into MIT have much higher stats than those who got into engineering at Elizabethtown. I think test results would show a difference.

Right. Picking MIT for examples is maybe a little unfair. But let’s focus on an earlier assertion that UVA is weak. Pick a few MIT freshman students and send them to UVA instead. Then take them as finished products of UVA and compare them to the finished products of the “strong” schools. I’m pretty sure they will be among the best, coming out of UVA. How is that possible if UVA is weak? It’s not.

Are you an engineer? How many companies recruit engineers from UVA? It is pretty well known that UVA engineering prepares students to manage engineers and strong engineering schools teach students to be engineers. The Level of complexity and application of material is stronger at universities that have developed engineering curriculum over time. That is why they are ranked higher.

yea my kid got into both UVA and VT and chose VT. He’s a senior now and has interned two summers at the same company and has been kept on remotely part time this school year. He’s taking 8 weeks off after graduation for a European trip and then starts full time for 134k/yr. Not sure he would have gotten that exposure at UVA. Firms flock to VT for recruitment.

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Very similar experience with our VT senior. Great experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:Typically, the students who get into MIT have much higher stats than those who got into engineering at Elizabethtown. I think test results would show a difference.

Right. Picking MIT for examples is maybe a little unfair. But let’s focus on an earlier assertion that UVA is weak. Pick a few MIT freshman students and send them to UVA instead. Then take them as finished products of UVA and compare them to the finished products of the “strong” schools. I’m pretty sure they will be among the best, coming out of UVA. How is that possible if UVA is weak? It’s not.

Are you an engineer? How many companies recruit engineers from UVA? It is pretty well known that UVA engineering prepares students to manage engineers and strong engineering schools teach students to be engineers. The Level of complexity and application of material is stronger at universities that have developed engineering curriculum over time. That is why they are ranked higher.

yea my kid got into both UVA and VT and chose VT. He’s a senior now and has interned two summers at the same company and has been kept on remotely part time this school year. He’s taking 8 weeks off after graduation for a European trip and then starts full time for 134k/yr. Not sure he would have gotten that exposure at UVA. Firms flock to VT for recruitment.

Anonymous wrote:The directives “Must go to Ivy League school” and “Must study engineering” are in conflict with each other. My upper class WASPy family were appalled when I chose to study engineering. Very déclassé.

Also, small engineering schools are to STEM what LACs are to liberal arts. For undergrad, choose a school that focuses on the undergrad experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Some good engineering schools that I haven't seen mentioned here (and I've only skimmed the thread, so I've probably missed some of them) are Colorado School of Mines, RPI, Rose-Hulman, Embry-Riddle, Carnegie Mellon, Harvey Mudd, Olin, Northeastern, and Georgia Tech.

Engineering is more of a meritocracy than some other fields. You don't have to go to a top school to be a top engineer. You need a good engineering brain, a knack for your field, and a strong interest.

The point of the thread is the opposite…weak engineering programs.

Yeah except that, as has been mentioned on this board many many times, if you want to be an engineer (as opposed to majoring in engineering with the hope of investment banking or law school or something), then the "big name school" issue just isn't the same as in many other fields. As long as it's an ABET accredited program (Stanford not withstanding....) there are plenty of good engineering schools with excellent job prospects.
I went to Purdue. My first job out of college (ages ago) I shared a cubicle with a kid from Cal Poly - SLO, Notre Dame, and MIT.

I get that...but PP was mentioning schools with good engineering programs. I think PP just didn't quite pay attention to the theme of this thread.

Also, I hate anecdotes which DCUM just has in abundance. I worked at a boutique investment bank that was 100% top 10 schools...however, I don't use that one anecdote to think that there are not lots of kids from all kinds of schools working at larger investment banks.

Also, how many of your Purdue grads went to work for some quant shop? Do you think there were more or less MIT grads that were offered that route?

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Anonymous wrote:Some good engineering schools that I haven't seen mentioned here (and I've only skimmed the thread, so I've probably missed some of them) are Colorado School of Mines, RPI, Rose-Hulman, Embry-Riddle, Carnegie Mellon, Harvey Mudd, Olin, Northeastern, and Georgia Tech.

Engineering is more of a meritocracy than some other fields. You don't have to go to a top school to be a top engineer. You need a good engineering brain, a knack for your field, and a strong interest.

The point of the thread is the opposite…weak engineering programs.

Yeah except that, as has been mentioned on this board many many times, if you want to be an engineer (as opposed to majoring in engineering with the hope of investment banking or law school or something), then the "big name school" issue just isn't the same as in many other fields. As long as it's an ABET accredited program (Stanford not withstanding....) there are plenty of good engineering schools with excellent job prospects.
I went to Purdue. My first job out of college (ages ago) I shared a cubicle with a kid from Cal Poly - SLO, Notre Dame, and MIT.

Anonymous wrote:UNC doesn’t have engineering school. Most of engineering programs moved NCSU last century.

The have a department with a sizeable program in biomedical engineering due to the huge hospital and medical school there.