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Anonymous

03/31/2024 08:27 Subject: Re:HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
NNAT is much easier exam, and helping with maintaining some amount of diversity. If it's just cogat, there entire AAP would like taken over by students of just one race, which need not be mentioned here.

Nnat is not an easier test but it is not English based. Test scores correlate roughly with academic aptitude and very roughly with IQ. It makes sense to use test scores as part of admissions for an AAP or GT program.

NP. Maybe in the case of a high score result that is true, but a lower test result isn't always accurate. These are mainly 6/7 year olds and a handful of redshirted 8 year olds we're talking about. They just may have other agendas besides perfecting a test at that age. It's been said many times on here that a lot of kids rush the IREADY so they can get to recess or play games. I assume that would also be applicable to COGAT/NNAT. Or maybe they just had an off day. In this case, a good HOPE score from the classroom teacher should counter the lower test score.

Anonymous

03/31/2024 07:48 Subject: Re:HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:
NNAT is much easier exam, and helping with maintaining some amount of diversity. If it's just cogat, there entire AAP would like taken over by students of just one race, which need not be mentioned here.

Nnat is not an easier test but it is not English based. Test scores correlate roughly with academic aptitude and very roughly with IQ. It makes sense to use test scores as part of admissions for an AAP or GT program.

Anonymous

03/30/2024 23:50 Subject: Re:HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:Where to see the iready %? we know only the score , how to convert to percentage?

OP of this question. I got my answer. Its uploaded into SIS between3/15-3/20, please check yours too. 79% in Math, 59% in Reading. Good other scores otherwise. Do I stop following this AAP thread with these % in iReady as I have no HOPE?

Anonymous

03/29/2024 08:17 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:Did you get it

Yes, got my favorite, tequila sunrise

Anonymous

03/29/2024 08:15 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:Is the AAP results out?

Will check after springbreak vacation

Anonymous

03/29/2024 07:10 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Did you get it

Anonymous

03/29/2024 06:43 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Is the AAP results out?

Anonymous

03/29/2024 01:11 Subject: Re:HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing. I hope at some pt they realize the tests are not needed. There are many where English is a second language and the tests don’t reflect a child’s ability. Also history shows the test also doesn’t promote diversity. Universities got rid of SATs for a reason.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These tests do not offer the best criteria for selection. They need to do away with them to be more inclusive in the approach anyway.

Anonymous wrote:I also requested the packet and received it recently. My child received 1 always, 7 almost always and 3 often on the HOPE ratings and exceptional talent in math, visual arts, reading and social studies. I'm relatively pleased but was of course hoping for higher. It is an interesting look at how the school views your kid, and I would definitely recommend that everyone request the packet. I was hopeful that the HOPE scores would show more comments from the teacher / school committee. It seems like the old GBRS had more of an emphasis on comments and painting a picture of the student, where this form seems rather bland.

Test scores are a mixed bag -- very high in verbal but not as high in the other sections, although still good. I am expecting that test scores, although good, will keep my child out on first round and that we will need to appeal with a higher WISC score.

Any thoughts on how those HOPE ratings will be viewed?

Based on others' posts and prior years' GBRS scores, I think your child has a great shot if they have 135+ NNAT and CoGATs.

That’s why it’s now a holistic process but they shouldn’t do away with testing completely bc it does serve a function in identifying need. They’ll likely do away w NNAT but CogAT will stay.

NNAT is much easier exam, and helping with maintaining some amount of diversity. If it's just cogat, there entire AAP would like taken over by students of just one race, which need not be mentioned here.

Anonymous

03/24/2024 13:14 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:DC's HOPE rating is dated 1/31.

Personally I'd like to see the admittance criteria of a certain score on the CogAt OR teacher recommendation. DC got a high HOPE score which is consistent with teacher comments of my child being a standout in the classroom going back every single year to PK3, but bombed the CogAt. It's really annoying that a committee who have never met my child and spend 5 minutes on their file could deem my child completely ineligible due this one score.

Scores matter!

Anonymous

03/24/2024 10:20 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

Anonymous wrote:DC's HOPE rating is dated 1/31.

Personally I'd like to see the admittance criteria of a certain score on the CogAt OR teacher recommendation. DC got a high HOPE score which is consistent with teacher comments of my child being a standout in the classroom going back every single year to PK3, but bombed the CogAt. It's really annoying that a committee who have never met my child and spend 5 minutes on their file could deem my child completely ineligible due this one score.

+1 that happened to us two years in a row and we didn’t get in. Eventually I gave up.

Anonymous

03/24/2024 10:07 Subject: HOPE ratings - pls post

DC's HOPE rating is dated 1/31.

Personally I'd like to see the admittance criteria of a certain score on the CogAt OR teacher recommendation. DC got a high HOPE score which is consistent with teacher comments of my child being a standout in the classroom going back every single year to PK3, but bombed the CogAt. It's really annoying that a committee who have never met my child and spend 5 minutes on their file could deem my child completely ineligible due this one score.

Anonymous

03/24/2024 09:15 Subject: Re:HOPE ratings - pls post

Thanks for sharing. I hope at some pt they realize the tests are not needed. There are many where English is a second language and the tests don’t reflect a child’s ability. Also history shows the test also doesn’t promote diversity. Universities got rid of SATs for a reason.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These tests do not offer the best criteria for selection. They need to do away with them to be more inclusive in the approach anyway.

Anonymous wrote:I also requested the packet and received it recently. My child received 1 always, 7 almost always and 3 often on the HOPE ratings and exceptional talent in math, visual arts, reading and social studies. I'm relatively pleased but was of course hoping for higher. It is an interesting look at how the school views your kid, and I would definitely recommend that everyone request the packet. I was hopeful that the HOPE scores would show more comments from the teacher / school committee. It seems like the old GBRS had more of an emphasis on comments and painting a picture of the student, where this form seems rather bland.

Test scores are a mixed bag -- very high in verbal but not as high in the other sections, although still good. I am expecting that test scores, although good, will keep my child out on first round and that we will need to appeal with a higher WISC score.

Any thoughts on how those HOPE ratings will be viewed?

Based on others' posts and prior years' GBRS scores, I think your child has a great shot if they have 135+ NNAT and CoGATs.

That’s why it’s now a holistic process but they shouldn’t do away with testing completely bc it does serve a function in identifying need. They’ll likely do away w NNAT but CogAT will stay.