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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

This was my post in which another poster went nuts too. I didn’t blame Kody 100% at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Wait a minute. We aren’t allowed to say that Kody may have had had something to do with this, yet here you are pinning it on the ex girlfriend?! Unbelievable.

Hello, Robyn.

How is saying "it sounds like" pinning it on the ex? She said "sounds more like" not "definitively was." Grow up.

You would fit in over on the sister wives subreddits where any criticism of anyone but Robyn is met with "Hello, Robyn."

No one ever said “definitely was” Kody’s fault. I’m the PP who said it had to have been a “contributing factor.” You went nuts saying “we don’t know.” And how dare we speculate…and yet you just speculated about the bad breakup. Please acknowledge this.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Wait a minute. We aren’t allowed to say that Kody may have had had something to do with this, yet here you are pinning it on the ex girlfriend?! Unbelievable.

Hello, Robyn.

How is saying "it sounds like" pinning it on the ex? She said "sounds more like" not "definitively was." Grow up.

You would fit in over on the sister wives subreddits where any criticism of anyone but Robyn is met with "Hello, Robyn."

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Wait a minute. We aren’t allowed to say that Kody may have had had something to do with this, yet here you are pinning it on the ex girlfriend?! Unbelievable.

Hello, Robyn.

How is saying "it sounds like" pinning it on the ex? She said "sounds more like" not "definitively was." Grow up.

You would fit in over on the sister wives subreddits where any criticism of anyone but Robyn is met with "Hello, Robyn."

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody really think that when a child commits suicide it has nothing whatsoever to do with their parents or how they were parented or the relationship past and present with their parents?

I know this is a hard truth to face.

But c'mon.

Brings to mind the famous JFK quote: Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

Plenty of people have wonderful relationships with their parents and go on to commit suicide, and plenty of people are estranged from their parents and never have a suicidal thought in their life. We don't know why Garrison chose to do this. We do know that suicide is often a culmination of many things, not just one thing, and that the act itself is incredibly impulsive. Doing it successfully often depends on whether or not you have a method lying around. If you don't have a gun on hand, which unfortunately Garrison did, you have time to cool down.

It sounds to me like an acute suicidal crisis, which can come on quickly and then deescalate as quickly as it came. His roommates also told police he had a bit of a drinking problem. The guy adopted a cat less than a week before. To me, that does not sound like someone seething about his relationship with his father for two or three years.

But here's the thing about Kody. Even if it had to do with the estrangement...Kody is in hell right now. He is paying a price that far, far outweighs what he did. He called his child an a hole on television. That does not mean he deserves to bury that child. We don't need to tell him that he is an awful parent. He will live with that thought for the rest of his life.

I have nothing but compassion for him in this moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Wait a minute. We aren’t allowed to say that Kody may have had had something to do with this, yet here you are pinning it on the ex girlfriend?! Unbelievable.

Hello, Robyn.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

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Anonymous wrote:There are several DCUM posters who enjoy starting threads about tragedies. There's a term for them which escapes me now.

This was publicly reported news-it's not like the poster went searching.

Why post it at all?

I’m OP. I haven’t posted since the OP. I posted because I was shocked and really sad and knew other people followed the family since I posted in the large sister wives thread back when it was active.

I don’t know, reaching out to other humans who might feel the same way since I don’t know anyone who watched in real life.

The way the thread has gone I regret posting it. I think most of these posts have been shameful. I’ll never understand someone who hears about a tragedy like this and believes that is the moment to pile in the family.

Please, this is DCUM. All threads end up criticizing the people involved. You included a trigger warning so you knew it could upset people.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Why are you defending the father of a young man who committed suicide? This young man was obviously hurt by his father’s actions and struggling. He had to step up and be the “father” of his family after his father withdrew because his mother wouldn’t kick him and his brother out of her home.

The police report described Kody as his estranged father. So we do know.

You think mid 2022 to March 2024 is enough time for a person to not “struggle” because their dad cut them off for a new family?

pp: what’s your relationship like with both your parents?

I am defending him because he just lost a child. He is a victim in that regard. You are acting like no one has a right to grieve a child with whom they have a difficult relationship - often those suicides hurt MORE because people have to play the "what if" game.

I am not defending Kody's behavior on the show. He has been an a sshole to several of his children including Garrison. He was a shit husband to the first three wives and he took out his anger towards them on their kids. But are we going to go through every sin Garrison's parents committed? What about the time Kody IGNORED SAVANNAH FOR MONTHS and while he was ignoring her Janelle went on a flirty little birthday dinner date where she was cooing about how much she missed having him in her bed and calling him babe? Are we going to beat Janelle up for not sticking up for her kids more during the estrangement?

He has to live with this guilt of his crappy behavior in Garrison's final years for the rest of his life. I bet he'd change it if he could. He seemed decent enough before fame got to his head, I suspect this will teach him life is too short and he'll try to mend his relationships with the other kids.

My mother was horribly abusive and my father (when he was even home, which was rare) did f all to protect my siblings and me. So, I'm sorry that goes against the narrative you want to paint of me showing compassion to Kody must mean I have a perfect family.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.

Why are you defending the father of a young man who committed suicide? This young man was obviously hurt by his father’s actions and struggling. He had to step up and be the “father” of his family after his father withdrew because his mother wouldn’t kick him and his brother out of her home.

The police report described Kody as his estranged father. So we do know.

You think mid 2022 to March 2024 is enough time for a person to not “struggle” because their dad cut them off for a new family?

pp: what’s your relationship like with both your parents?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody really think that when a child commits suicide it has nothing whatsoever to do with their parents or how they were parented or the relationship past and present with their parents?

I know this is a hard truth to face.

But c'mon.

Brings to mind the famous JFK quote: Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

Plenty of people have wonderful relationships with their parents and go on to commit suicide, and plenty of people are estranged from their parents and never have a suicidal thought in their life. We don't know why Garrison chose to do this. We do know that suicide is often a culmination of many things, not just one thing, and that the act itself is incredibly impulsive. Doing it successfully often depends on whether or not you have a method lying around. If you don't have a gun on hand, which unfortunately Garrison did, you have time to cool down.

It sounds to me like an acute suicidal crisis, which can come on quickly and then deescalate as quickly as it came. His roommates also told police he had a bit of a drinking problem. The guy adopted a cat less than a week before. To me, that does not sound like someone seething about his relationship with his father for two or three years.

But here's the thing about Kody. Even if it had to do with the estrangement...Kody is in hell right now. He is paying a price that far, far outweighs what he did. He called his child an a hole on television. That does not mean he deserves to bury that child. We don't need to tell him that he is an awful parent. He will live with that thought for the rest of his life.

I have nothing but compassion for him in this moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this because Kody basically rejected him? I am worried now about Gabe.

Don't be absurd.

Kody didn't reject him. I am not a Kody fan at all.
Kody is a disgusting POS full stop however saying he is at fault is wrong.

Suicide is horrible. Playing the blame game never helps.

Kody stopped communicating with him during Covid. They were at odds at how he handled covid. I’m sure that has to have played some part in Garrison’s mental health. I hope Kody reconciles with Gabe now. Life is too short.

So what they fought about Covid and respecting one’s house rules,

That does not mean Kody was the only reason this young man killed himself.

I hope you feel good about yourself speculating about something that is none of your business.

Not a Kody fan he’s gross no family needs this utter BS online after a suicide

I agree. As much as I think Kody is a narcissist and a loser, he didn't cause this.

(S189) when some of Janelle's and Christine's families were gathered and there was the conversation about the awful Christmas text. And Garrison said, Robyn can have Dad, we don't need him anymore. And in itself, that was so sad because of course, children need their dad. But Garrison had been so hurt and he was trying to deny that by declaring he didn't need Kody.

You don’t think that estrangement had anything to do with the suicide?

WE DON'T KNOW. That episode you're referring to happened two years ago at this point. I believe it was early- to mid-2022. So, it's not like the estrangement had just happened and he was struggling to come to grips with it. And, for all we know, he and Kody were speaking again at the time of his death.

Also his roommates told police he had been going through a bad breakup. That to me sounds more like a contributing factor than the estrangement.