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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

do you know anyone who has actually done this program? which dmv privates are feeders?

An awful lot of NCS/STA kids have gone to Chicago over the years, and I have never heard anyone mention this.

My child attended. It’s run by admissions, and she reported that it felt like the Hunger Games. She was impressed by a couple of lectures she attended, but it was overall it did not feel like right place for her. We know of another family whose child was admitted in the fall this way.

Some kids post about the program in their LinkedIn. I can’t remember what it was called, unfortunately. We do not live in the DC area and don’t know if it’s available in all states.

The greater point is that the admit rates can vary widely, with certain wealthy schools very favored. You can see which ones by looking at matriculation lists.

I care because as these practices get adopted by more schools they create opacity that disfavors kids not in the now (and not resourced).

Is this the Summer Enrichment Program? It’s a free one week seminar, correct? I know Notre Dame has something similar—it’s Leadership Seminar over the summer and also at no cost with a selective application process.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago also keeps the RD % low by using the WL and letting people off only if they commit.

People make this point about UChicago a lot, but years ago my DC was let off the waitlist at a much less selective college, and the Admissions Rep called him on his cell and said « Are you still interested? If we offer you a place on the WL will you accept? » And my DC said yes, and was offered a spot. But no commitment is made until you sign on the dotted line and pay the deposit. He did accept the spot, but he also thought about it for a couple of days since we had paid a deposit elsewhere. This does not seem that different.

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Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

do you know anyone who has actually done this program? which dmv privates are feeders?

An awful lot of NCS/STA kids have gone to Chicago over the years, and I have never heard anyone mention this.

My child attended. It’s run by admissions, and she reported that it felt like the Hunger Games. She was impressed by a couple of lectures she attended, but it was overall it did not feel like right place for her. We know of another family whose child was admitted in the fall this way.

Some kids post about the program in their LinkedIn. I can’t remember what it was called, unfortunately. We do not live in the DC area and don’t know if it’s available in all states.

The greater point is that the admit rates can vary widely, with certain wealthy schools very favored. You can see which ones by looking at matriculation lists.

I care because as these practices get adopted by more schools they create opacity that disfavors kids not in the now (and not resourced).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

do you know anyone who has actually done this program? which dmv privates are feeders?

An awful lot of NCS/STA kids have gone to Chicago over the years, and I have never heard anyone mention this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

do you know anyone who has actually done this program? which dmv privates are feeders?

An awful lot of NCS/STA kids have gone to Chicago over the years, and I have never heard anyone mention this.

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Anonymous wrote:This may be a naive question, but has UChicago ever addressed why that information i is left blank on the common data set? Like is it an oversight? Is it purposeful?

Good question. Has the admissions dean addressed this?

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago also keeps the RD % low by using the WL and letting people off only if they commit.

People make this point about UChicago a lot, but years ago my DC was let off the waitlist at a much less selective college, and the Admissions Rep called him on his cell and said « Are you still interested? If we offer you a place on the WL will you accept? » And my DC said yes, and was offered a spot. But no commitment is made until you sign on the dotted line and pay the deposit. He did accept the spot, but he also thought about it for a couple of days since we had paid a deposit elsewhere. This does not seem that different.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

do you know anyone who has actually done this program? which dmv privates are feeders?

Anonymous wrote:Chicago also keeps the RD % low by using the WL and letting people off only if they commit.

Anonymous wrote:This may be a naive question, but has UChicago ever addressed why that information i is left blank on the common data set? Like is it an oversight? Is it purposeful?

Anonymous wrote:The unfortunate thing about Chicago as initially discussed is that the ED rates of coming from a feeder private are far, far higher. The school caters to this with a fly-in program that wines and dines the top couple of students from pre-selected private schools for a full week the summer before senior year.
I once read somewhere that Chicago cultivates such privates as a way to bolster its prestige by association. Those kids are invited to apply ED before the official ED round and get accepted even earlier. Pre-ED?

There is nothing wrong with the school itself, though I did hear rumblings of financial issues. What is generally unfortunate is that its extensive gaming to be the almost-Ivy has been so successful, because it only incentivizes all the other schools to follow it down the path, resulting in a more confusing and (imho) unfair playing field in years to come. It and Northeastern preys off of the insecurities generated by USNWR and everyone’s need to be able to hold our head up high and say our kids did well in the college process. In an ideal world, everyone would feel that way.

A Chicago parent found out my child was at one of HYPSM and immediately began bragging extensively about her child and his institution. That’s Chicago’s admission strategy in a nutshell. And it’s worked splendidly.

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Anonymous wrote:if you go onto reddit, there are people who describe a call ED acceptance kids get on and the AO congratulates them. trying to hype them up. really protecting the yield there.

anyway

in it they describe the class and data and year after year, the ED rate seems to be about 9-11%. but you can search through reddit.

I’m not understanding—Why would there be a need to protect yield for an ED acceptance? Hyping up for college? Sure. But yield protection for ED?

Anonymous wrote:if you go onto reddit, there are people who describe a call ED acceptance kids get on and the AO congratulates them. trying to hype them up. really protecting the yield there.

anyway

in it they describe the class and data and year after year, the ED rate seems to be about 9-11%. but you can search through reddit.